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Friday November 01, 1996
From: Breadmold <moldy@IME.NET>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 06:58:24 -0500
Subject: Re: Questions...
Steve Eyler writes:
> Anyone interested in writing a
> basic compiler or interpreter that
> lives
> in MagicCap? Now that would be
> useful...
I agree. Any programmers wanna take this on? I think a BASIC interpreter that lived in the desk accessories drawer would be cool. If it could control
the modem (IDK, anyone?), it would be very *fun*. How hard would this program
be to write? Hmm.
-moldy
From: Martin Ledford <mledford@MAILER1.JVCDISCUSA.COM>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 08:35:53 CST
Subject: Removal from list
Please remove me from mailing list. I have tried repeatedly using
unsubscribe, but nothing happens.
Thanks.
From: Steve Eyler <seyler@GSTIS.NET>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:26:07 -0800
Subject: Re: Questions...
Toby Dunn wrote:
>
> >Steve Eyler wrote:
> >
> >Speaking of an on device scripting language... I know it's a long shot
> >but has anyone written even the simplest scripting language for
> >MagicCap?
> >I assume I would have probably heard about it by now, but it never
> >hurts to ask.
> >
> >Anyone interested in writing a basic compiler or interpreter that lives
> >in MagicCap? Now that would be useful...
> >
> >Luke Derossi wrote:
> >>
> >> Justin,
> >>
> >> You're right, there's some creative ways to take advantage of some of
> >> the components in the ways you describe, and I wouldn't want to
> >> discourage any creative tinkering! :) But what I wanted to express was
> >> that interaction between buttons and similar controls wasn't possible
> >> (say, via an on-device scripting language).
> >>
>
> Ok, I'll bite. What would you like to see? What would the scripting
> language do?
>
> Toby Dunn
> Sony New Technologies
> One Lower Ragsdale Drive, #150
> Monterey, CA 93940
> tdunn@sonysoft.com
> v: (408) 642-6409
I was thinking something along the lines of just a simple basic
interpreter.
Of course a compiler would be even better. Even if it was just a simple
text based interpreter... something like the old Commodore 64 basic
command
line (list, run, save, load). It could use the regular basic commands
like
goto, gosub, for..next, if..then, input, print and utilize strings and
arrays.
Using just these basic functions I could write programs to process data
and
do calculations that even a good (non-programmable) scientific
calculator
can't do automatically.
It would REALLY be cool if it could reference other OS objects, like
switches
and sliders, for display and input. If it were a compiler, with all the
options, non-developer package people who know nothing of macintosh
could
write packages using only the MagicCap OS!
Is any of this possible? What the heck, why not just write a full C++
compiler complete with debugger for the MC OS!? hehee
-Steve
From: Jacqueline Curry <Live4Words@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 15:06:29 -0500
Subject: modems
[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]
Dear MAGICCAP List,
I don't remember, but did someone mention the possibility of an external card
modem (14.4) being used by the pic1000? Something like special
codes/programming? I recently saw a 14.4 card modem on sale for a good price
and it's killing me that I can't use it! I think it's the AT&T one.
From: Paul Linhardt <plin@SONYSOFT.COM>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 11:47:21 -0800
Subject: Re: WML on Envoy?
>I remember reading on the list a few months ago that someone had tested the
>Sony Wireless Modem Link software on an Envoy and it didn't work. I am curious
>as to how intensive the test was, and whether it went beyond an initial
>failure. Was the Wireless Toolbox package packed up beforehand, etc.
The driver software is very specific to the host hardware platform. Sony
Electronics had to write separate WML drivers for the PIC-1000 and
PIC-2000. For this reason, it's not at all surprising that the PIC-2000 or
PIC-1000 WML driver doesn't work on the Envoy.
-Paul
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Sony New Technologies
http://www.sonysoft.com
1-800-739-7337
E-mail: plin@sonysoft.com
From: Charles Ashley <charlesa@NETVENTURES.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 19:21:07 GMT
Subject: MC News...
Not too good, I'm afraid.
For those of you using FarCast, check out story =
[Newsbytes:News-1031.57] with the headline "General Magic Cuts =
Third Of Workers, Difficult Quarter"
For those of you not using FarCast, you get the gist...
C.=
From: Mark Perreira <markp@BDT.COM>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:57:00 PST
Subject: Re: Questions...
Magic,
Toby Dunn writes:
> Ok, I'll bite. What would you like to see? What would the
> scripting language do?
I don't know about a scripting language, but what about a simple recorder that
allows recording and playing back of actions. It should create a little film
reel icon with a name at the bottom. When playing back, of course, it would
look like a movie. Enough UI, this would be usefull to save setups that I
must always do by hand.
Just a thought.
Mark.
From: Wayne Sanderson <whsander@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:19:06 -0800
Subject: Re: Presto!Mail/Presto!Links for sale -Reply
David Gillett writes:
> On 1 Nov 96 at 8:20, Dan Burton wrote:
> > 2. Byzantine adj
> > 1: of, relating to, or characteristic of the ancient city of
> > Byzantium
> Capitol of the Roman Empire during its last
> days, full of
> decadence, corruption, bureaucracy and
> conspiracy.
> > 2: of, relating to, or having the characteristics of a style of
> > architecture developed in the Byzantine Empire esp. in the 5th and
> > 6th centuries featuring the dome carried on pendentives over a
> > square and incrustation with marble veneering and with coloured
> > mosaics on grounds of gold
> Hence, like "baroque" (also originally an
> architectural term),
> anything so incredibly convoluted and ornate that
> individual details
> become essentially impossible to follow.
> In other words, this is an opposite of
> "straightforward".
> Dave
The later Byzantine Empire also was the originator of the State intelligence
service concept. Theirs was a powerful political tool used to deal with
enemies both internal and external, with intrigue, bribery, assasination and
the manipulation of one enemy against another being the norm. Wars were
actually avoided by destroying the political stability and/or support of the
potential aggressor state. For centuries, the Byzantines and their spy network
had the entire western world wired. In short, those guys make the CIA look
second rate on a good day. The word Byzantine used in the context of the
original posting is as a synonym for Complex, this according to Roget. The
thesaurus can give you the meaning of the word, but you have to have been a
history major or an historiophile to know about the above being the origin of
that term.
From: Paul Linhardt <plin@SONYSOFT.COM>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:54:34 -0800
Subject: Re: modems
>[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
>America Online.]
>
>Dear MAGICCAP List,
>
>I don't remember, but did someone mention the possibility of an external card
>modem (14.4) being used by the pic1000? Something like special
>codes/programming? I recently saw a 14.4 card modem on sale for a good price
>and it's killing me that I can't use it! I think it's the AT&T one.
The Apex card is sold as a wireless modem card for the Magic Link, but can
also be used as a landline 14.4 modem.
-Paul
http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/Magic/apexcard.html
(see also: http://www.apexdata.com/)
Apex Mobile Plus Data/Fax Modem
To order:
Call 1-800-571-SONY ext 333
$224.00 Suggested Retail Price (PICP-CM1)
Apex Data's Plus Modems enable today's mobile user to achieve
reliable and convenient mobile communications using the most
popular phones on the market. Double your productivity and
upgrade to Mobile Plus.
Ease and convenience are of prime
importance to today's mobile user. Mobile
Plus modems liberate the mobile user from
the restrictions normally associated with
landline connections. The modem connects
to your phone using just one, thin,
lightweight cable.
Apex Data has incorporated TX-CEL from
Celeritas Technologies, providing the best
in reliability and throughput over the
cellular network. This patented technology works as an "error
avoidance" system, improving the reliability of both your data and
fax transmissions. Actual throughput is nearly twice as fast as prior
standards, improving productivity and reducing airtime charges.
And TX-CEL improves the quality of the signal in "fringe areas,"
increasing the range of your mobile operations.
Specifications and Requirements
14,400 bps data transmission
14,400 bps fax transmission
V.42 bis data compression for 57,600 bps throughput
Requires Wireless Modem Link software for use with Magic Link
communicator.
Cellular phone brands supported*
Sony (available soon)
DiamondTel
Ericsson-GE
Mitsubishi
Motorola
Nokia
* Optional cable is required for cellular transmisison
---------------------
Sony New Technologies
http://www.sonysoft.com
1-800-739-7337
E-mail: plin@sonysoft.com
From: Jacqueline Curry <Live4Words@AOL.COM>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:01:41 -0500
Subject: Re: modems
[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]
Dear MAGICCAP List,
-Paul wrote:
-The Apex card is sold as a -wireless modem card for the -Magic Link, but can
-also be used as a landline 14.4 -modem.
Is that the only one? The AT&T modem wasn't a mobile one. I know that it
would fit inside the pcmcia slot.
From: Michael Kline <mwklin00@service1.uky.edu>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:35:54 -0500
Subject:
please remove me from this list!
thank you
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From: Wayne Sanderson <whsander@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:44:23 -0800
Subject: Re: modems
Live4Words writes:
> Dear MAGICCAP List,
> -Paul wrote:
> -The Apex card is sold as a -wireless modem card
> for the -Magic Link, but can
> -also be used as a landline 14.4 -modem.
> Is that the only one? The AT&T modem wasn't a
> mobile one. I know that it
> would fit inside the pcmcia slot.
The Apex Mobile Plus and the AT&T Keep in Touch card were the two pcmcia card
modems supported by the Sony Wireless Modem Link package. Since the PIC1000
has only one card slot, you can only operate it with either a rom loaded
communication package, or one loaded in main memory that is small enough to
coexist in main mem with the WML package. The only remaining rom service is
AOL, and that package will reportedly lock the pc card modem's speed at 2400
baud. OK if you are looking for cellular connectivity, but a waste if you are
hoping for higher speed on landlines. When I get my newly acquired Envoy's OS
upgraded by Motorola, the newer AOL package may get loaded, which would
overcome that problem on this device. Now if only a WML package that works on
the Envoy were available.......
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