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Wednesday October 30, 1996


From: "M. Z. Mays" <maysmz@txdirect.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:18:57 +0000
Subject: Re: ML News & Financial application

Seppo T. Vakeva wrote:
>
> As to the financial application, I, too, wish to dump my HP 17B if there
> was a good Financial/Business calculator in the ML.  So, time value of
> money with cash flows & bond calculations are the minimum.

I have PenCell 2.0 on my ML 2000.  It's a great spreadsheet with a simple chart
program.

It has templates for cash flow analysis, income statements, loan schedules,
mortgage payments, sales forecast, stock portfolio, etc.  If that does not
suffice, it couldn't be too hard to set up what you need.

I use it in lieu of Pocket Quicken and transfer data to Quicken on my MAC.  Works
great.

MZM


From: Steve Eyler <seyler@GSTIS.NET>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:27:39 -0800
Subject: Questions...

Say, I've got a couple of simple questions and I was hoping someone
could enlighten me.

1) Is there any way in Pen Cell v1.0 to "lock titles"?  I have a
   large spreadsheet and I would like to see the field names as I
   scroll down through it, but I can't figure out how.

2) On the PIC-2000, in the Magic Hat, what are the "Components" used
   for?  There are buttons, switches, sliders, etc. but I can't
   seem to find a good use for them.  Are they programmable in some
   way to do certain things?

Thanks!
Steve


From: Karen H <MindFire@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:49:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Untitled

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]

Dear Magic,
kwit@iap.net.au writes:
>  In the AOL booklet from AOL that came with my
> pic2000 in the arrow hand(that
> > thing in the upper right corner) is pointing to "TFSP".  What is "TFSP"?
> the first singular pronoun
> -----------------------

TFSP?
The Finest Superlative PDA?


From: Dan Free <dharma@ARI.NET>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:53:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Untitled

>kwit@iap.net.au writes:
>>  In the AOL booklet from AOL that came with my
>> pic2000 in the arrow hand(that
>> > thing in the upper right corner) is pointing to "TFSP".  What is "TFSP"?

I've always assumed that the "pointing hand" is pointing the way "To Finer
Service Provider".


From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@ComCAT.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:33:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Questions...

Steve Eyler wrote:
>
> Say, I've got a couple of simple questions and I was hoping someone
> could enlighten me.
>
> 1) Is there any way in Pen Cell v1.0 to "lock titles"?  I have a
>    large spreadsheet and I would like to see the field names as I
>    scroll down through it, but I can't figure out how.
>
> 2) On the PIC-2000, in the Magic Hat, what are the "Components" used
>    for?  There are buttons, switches, sliders, etc. but I can't
>    seem to find a good use for them.  Are they programmable in some
>    way to do certain things?
>
> Thanks!
> Steve

  Steve,

  I don't believe there is a way to lock a column or row in place so
it'll remain on-screen when you scroll around.

  The components section is of most use to developers who are using the
simulator.  Instead of going through a lot of unintuitive coding to
create a user interface, one can simply drag objects from the stamper,
arrange them and name them, and then dump the items' source code to a
log which can be automatically sucked into the development environment
and incorporated with a package.  There isn't much use for the average
user of these objects though, as you do need the development environment
to make them perform functions (well, the switches, buttons,
selection-bars, and other controls at least).


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.


From: Dan Free <dharma@ARI.NET>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:25:40 -0500
Subject:

>kwit@iap.net.au writes:
>>  In the AOL booklet from AOL that came with my
>> pic2000 in the arrow hand(that
>> > thing in the upper right corner) is pointing to "TFSP".  What is "TFSP"?

I assume that the *pointing hand* is pointing the way "To Finer
Service Provider".


From: Justin Martin Anderson <janderso@MNSINC.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:25:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Questions...

On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:33:38 -0500, Luke wrote:

>Steve Eyler wrote:
>>
>> 2) On the PIC-2000, in the Magic Hat, what are the "Components" used
>>    for?  There are buttons, switches, sliders, etc. but I can't
>>    seem to find a good use for them.  Are they programmable in some
>>    way to do certain things?
>>
>
>  The components section is of most use to developers who are using the
>simulator.  Instead of going through a lot of unintuitive coding to
>create a user interface, one can simply drag objects from the stamper,
>arrange them and name them, and then dump the items' source code to a
>log which can be automatically sucked into the development environment
>and incorporated with a package.  There isn't much use for the average
>user of these objects though, as you do need the development environment
>to make them perform functions (well, the switches, buttons,
>selection-bars, and other controls at least).
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Luke Derossi
> for
>  General Magic, Inc.
>

Hmmm...not strictly true.  In fact, I used the components to build
myself a little database of customer systems that I was responsible
for maintaining.  On a notebook page, I put a edit box, where I put
the name of the site, a spinner with the type of system (this
particular application came in three flavors) a check box for whether
it supported a certain feature, plus edit boxes for remote access
numbers, administrator contacts, etc.  Then, I'd copy the page for a
new system and dump them all in a folder in the file cabinet.  Here's
the fun part:  Sniffy could then search the database (very simply of
course...no booleans here).

Sadly, I'm not on that project anymore, so I threw it all away, but I
was quite proud of it....

Justin
Justin Martin Anderson
janderso@mnsinc.com
The Anderson Hypothesis:  People are stupid.


From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@ComCAT.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:20:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Questions...

Justin Martin Anderson wrote:
>
> On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:33:38 -0500, Luke wrote:
>
> >Steve Eyler wrote:
> >>
> >> 2) On the PIC-2000, in the Magic Hat, what are the "Components" used
> >>    for?  There are buttons, switches, sliders, etc. but I can't
> >>    seem to find a good use for them.  Are they programmable in some
> >>    way to do certain things?
> >>
> >
> >  The components section is of most use to developers who are using the
> >simulator.  Instead of going through a lot of unintuitive coding to
> >create a user interface, one can simply drag objects from the stamper,
> >arrange them and name them, and then dump the items' source code to a
> >log which can be automatically sucked into the development environment
> >and incorporated with a package.  There isn't much use for the average
> >user of these objects though, as you do need the development environment
> >to make them perform functions (well, the switches, buttons,
> >selection-bars, and other controls at least).
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Luke Derossi
> > for
> >  General Magic, Inc.
> >
>
> Hmmm...not strictly true.  In fact, I used the components to build
> myself a little database of customer systems that I was responsible
> for maintaining.  On a notebook page, I put a edit box, where I put
> the name of the site, a spinner with the type of system (this
> particular application came in three flavors) a check box for whether
> it supported a certain feature, plus edit boxes for remote access
> numbers, administrator contacts, etc.  Then, I'd copy the page for a
> new system and dump them all in a folder in the file cabinet.  Here's
> the fun part:  Sniffy could then search the database (very simply of
> course...no booleans here).
>
> Sadly, I'm not on that project anymore, so I threw it all away, but I
> was quite proud of it....
>
> Justin
> Justin Martin Anderson
> janderso@mnsinc.com
> The Anderson Hypothesis:  People are stupid.


  Justin,

  You're right, there's some creative ways to take advantage of some of
the components in the ways you describe, and I wouldn't want to
discourage any creative tinkering! :)  But what I wanted to express was
that interaction between buttons and similar controls wasn't possible
(say, via an on-device scripting language).



Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.


From: "Seppo T. Vakeva" <svakeva@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:49:37 +0000
Subject: Re: ML News & Financial application

Dear M. Z.

I do have the PenCell, too.  Some of my earlier postings dealt with the
impossibility of exchanging data with PenCell and Macintosh (believe me,
the Magic Xhange for Mac doesn't do the job) and I have borrowed a PC to
transfer my valuation spreadsheets to PenCell.

However, my wish list was an answer to an earlier post asking
specification for a possible financial application to ML. The HP
emulation, I hope, would be more straightforward and faster to use than
a spreadsheet.  Moreover, if I have understood right, PenCell no more
comes in the ROM of PIC-2000 and if someone needs to buy a new software,
why not to have different options.

Best,

Seppo

M. Z. Mays wrote:
>
> Seppo T. Vakeva wrote:
> >
> > As to the financial application, I, too, wish to dump my HP 17B if there
> > was a good Financial/Business calculator in the ML.  So, time value of
> > money with cash flows & bond calculations are the minimum.
>
> I have PenCell 2.0 on my ML 2000.  It's a great spreadsheet with a simple chart
> program.
>
> It has templates for cash flow analysis, income statements, loan schedules,
> mortgage payments, sales forecast, stock portfolio, etc.  If that does not
> suffice, it couldn't be too hard to set up what you need.
>
> I use it in lieu of Pocket Quicken and transfer data to Quicken on my MAC.  Works
> great.
>
> MZM


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