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Thursday October 17, 1996


From: Robert Fischer <fischer@FOKUS.GMD.DE>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:05:25 +0000
Subject: Presto! and static IP

Finally I got my own PIC-2000 while on vacation in California. Great!
Both! ;-)

But...


I want to use Presto! with my company as the service provider, but
there is no possibility to get dynamic IP via PPP. Is there any
workaround? I do have a static IP for use with my PC. Is it possible
to assign this address magically?

Any hints are appreciated,

Robert

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From: Tommy Thorn <Tommy.Thorn@IRISA.FR>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:41:25 +0200
Subject: Re: MagicCap Goban? (long response)

I am happy to seem that my interest in Go for MagicCap is shared.  Please allow
me to elaborate on my previous posting:

The many names for Go and the origin is a story not told in few words.  I
invite all who is interested to examine the web address previously posted, it
is interesting reading.  For those who do not know Go, I heartly invite you to
learn the game.  It is an intellectual game, but with simple rules and a strong
visual appeal.  (No relation to Reversi, sorry.)

My previous posting did not make it sufficiently clear that I was *not* talking
about a computer opponent.  While certainly interesting, this is a much more
difficult problem.  What I had in mind was a tools allowing play between two
players and study on the road.  The ultimate Go tool would, as many suggested,
also integrate a client for the Internet Go servers, an (SGF) editor, and an
automatic replayer.

Peter Merel wrote:
| I don't have the SDK and I have no experience programming Go games, but I
| certainly second this idea - I'd *love* a GoBan, or better yet an SGF reader,
| on my ML. The C source for several such programs is freely available on the
| net, so most of the effort in doing this would be adapting the GUI, and a Go
| GUI can be very simple indeed.

I have some experience, but no SDK.  I don't know either to which extent you
can reuse (non GUI) C code with MC applications, anyone dare to comment?  As
for my humble graphics, I was just trying to imagine how the board could look
like on a ML.  It was not intended as a final GUI.

Dan Free wrote:
| If it was decided to forgo the "play against the computer" feature, then
| (apart from the graphics, "reset/start", and "placing the gamepiece"
| functions) the only essential item to be tackled would be writting the script
| for removing a captured piece from the board and keeping a tally of each
| player's respective captured pieces.

This would be very easy indeed.  I would hope for a bit more features including
undo/take back and saving and resuming game records.

Luke Derossi wrote:
| Perhaps we can do a magicdev mailing list group-effort/learning experience
| type of thing.

Well, if the sources are made freely available, then anyone can contribute.  I
am of course in favor of this.  If fact, there is no free software for the ML,
in the GPL (Gnu Public Licence) sense of the word "free".

I thank you for your attention.

/Tommy


From: Bill Berthoud <billb@MV.MV.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:45:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Keyboard, Keyboard, Anybody?

> I have used the buffering modes and found that I spend as much time waiting
> for the thing to digest the buffer as I do in Key mode.  Is it that slow
> with a regular keyboard attached?

I don't know for certain since I have never used the external keyboard,
but I imagine that the sluggishness is caused by the protocol being used
to transmit the keys over the serial link, and that the external keyboard
should work much more effectively thatn MX.

  Bill Berthoud             billb@mv.mv.com
  IntelliLink Corporation   http://www.ilink-corp.com/


From: Martin Focazio <martyf@NEOGRAPHIC.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:52:18 -0300
Subject: Re: Presto! and static IP

>I want to use Presto! with my company as the service provider, but
>there is no possibility to get dynamic IP via PPP.

Nope.  Accordint to GenMagic, it simply does not support it.  Have just
tried it and seen what happens.  Sometimes IP addresses just "happen"..
it's a kind of voodoo, but I have seen it with my own eyes.

Marty

Martin T. Focazio  Senior Producer  Neographic, Inc.
martyf@neographic.com www.neographic.com/staff/martyf
212-633-6649 x37 (f)212-633-6550
22 West 19 St. 9th Floor  New York, NY 10011


From: apineda@va-fch31.csc.com
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:44:14 -0400
Subject: Remove from list

  I want to get off of this mailing list.  How do I do that???

  Thanks,


  Andy


From: Greg Satz <satz@SPRINTMAIL.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:45:26 -0600
Subject: Re: Presto! and static IP

The challenge to implementing static IP addresses is the user interface.
Probably with the time crunch to get Presto! to market with the PersonaLink
demise static IPs were set aside. If you were really motivated you could
reverse engineer (decode the machine instructions) in the Presto!PPP
package and find where the PPP IP address negotiation occurs. At that point
you could set your hardcoded address. This is obviously not a job for the
faint at heart. :-)

It may be easier to just get your company to enable dynamic IP addresses.
Another alternative would be to dig up an old 386/486 box and run freebsd
or another free unix varient. They support ppp dialins easily enough. You
would need an extra phone line.

Greg

At 2:05 PM +0000 10/17/96, Robert Fischer wrote:
>Finally I got my own PIC-2000 while on vacation in California. Great!
>Both! ;-)
>
>But...
>
>
>I want to use Presto! with my company as the service provider, but
>there is no possibility to get dynamic IP via PPP. Is there any
>workaround? I do have a static IP for use with my PC. Is it possible
>to assign this address magically?
>
>Any hints are appreciated,


From: Martin Focazio <martyf@NEOGRAPHIC.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:43:44 -0300
Subject: PIC200/Ethernet/PrestoMail

Am I insane for thinking that I should be able to use my PIC2000 with
PrestoMail on our TCP/IP based Ethernet at work?

Is Ethernet even possible on the PIC 2000?


Martin T. Focazio  Senior Producer  Neographic, Inc.
martyf@neographic.com www.neographic.com/staff/martyf
212-633-6649 x37 (f)212-633-6550
22 West 19 St. 9th Floor  New York, NY 10011


From: Robert Kantor <r.kantor@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 01:26:30 +0000
Subject: Mxchange

I apologize if the original writer and this group misunderstood me or if I
was not clear.  I would copy to a 3.5 and retain for my own use while
shipping the original as a used product.  Please do not hate me.  I love
Magic Cap and ML1000.  Again, sorry for any confusion or for upsetting anyone.


From: Steve Hirst <hirst@WELL.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:43:55 -0700
Subject: PrestoPuzzle

Dear Magic and Magic,

Bob Buchanan writes about difficulty with PrestoMail and different behavior
when cohhecting with PrestoLink.

I also have found a difference but I with better results. I have copied the
connect button to my desk and get satisfactory results when I use if to
connect before collecting mail.

Can Brenda or someone familiar with the code offeran explanation and or
advice?


From: Steve Hirst <hirst@WELL.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:43:33 -0700
Subject: Memory Questions

Dear Magic,
Luke Derossi writes:
>   Each stamp is fairly small itself, however
> because they're not created as part of a package,
> they reside in main memory.

I'm more than a little curious. How do main memory, transient memork, and
workspace (as reported on the storeroom storage report) related? What are some
tips for freeing workspace?


From: Gabriel Golden <golden@USA.NET>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:38:28 -0700
Subject: Re: Quicken Confusion

At 10:27 PM 10/16/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks.
S'alright.

>So, the finance charge will have to be entered every month like it
>was a new charge?
Yep.

>I was wondering if a formula, like setting a percentage
>that would automatically be added monthly (on the day the statement cuts)
>could be added.
Alas, no. In fact, I don't see how this feature could concievably exist,
because monthly finance charges are computed based on average daily balance.
Because the computers at different banks and finance companies are running
defferent software, the average daily balance would probably still vary by a
few pennies, all other factors being equal.

This does, however, raise a suggestion for a package (are you listening
developers?). As we all know, it is necessary to periodically "trim"
transactions in Pocket Quicken, since they suck up main memory and can't be
transferred to the memory card. How about a package that would take all
transactions within a certain date range and automatically transfer the data
to a Pencell spreadsheet? Now that would be EXTREMELY handy!

Love ya, mean it,
Gabe
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From: "kennyli@wco.com" <kennyli@wco.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:54:53 +0000
Subject: Getting off the mailing list

        Please remove me from the mailing list.

Thanks,


Kenny


From: Robert Fischer <fischer@FOKUS.GMD.DE>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:20:05 +0000
Subject: Re: Presto! and static IP

Greg wrote:
[> The challenge to implementing static IP addresses is the user
[> interface. Probably with the time crunch to get Presto! to market
[> with the PersonaLink demise static IPs were set aside. ...

Pleeeease! Give me only one more stamp!

[> It may be easier to just get your company to enable dynamic IP
[> addresses.

Sorry, this is not an option. We are no 'official' internet provider
so security constraints (I think) leads to this measure.



Marty wrote:
[> Have just tried it and seen what happens.  Sometimes IP addresses
[> just "happen".. it's a kind of voodoo, but I have seen it with my
[> own eyes.

Sorry! It does'nt work. All I got is a panel which tells me about
problems with my PPP access. Nevertheless I wrote a 'debug' into my
script, I found no more 'log output'. Any hints?


Thanks all!

Robert

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From: Robert Fischer <fischer@FOKUS.GMD.DE>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:35:20 +0000
Subject: Newbie questions?

How To:
-------

- Notes to adress cards? I tried to add a coupon but it seems to be
restricted to some ten characters.
- Supress waiting for the dial tone while faxing. My ML states, that
there is no phone line connected. Using manual dialing or name cards
works fine. Is there another magic character like "'"? This problem
only occurs at my office not at home, so it seems not to be a
'localization problem' (Germany)

Thanks in advance,

Robert

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