Magic Cap Users Mailing List

Wednesday October 16, 1996

From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@comcat.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 03:39:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Aha Faxing and MagicGoban

Peter Merel wrote:
> I'm rather a dedicated Graffiti user - it seems a little odd to me, to
> say the least, that I should need to change my beloved HWR package just
> to get faxes to stretch to a presentable size. Not to say that I might
> not consider InkWriter if I was faxing web pages on a regular basis, but
> surely there must be someone out there who knows what Magic system-call
> Aha is using to do this. A response on magicdst said PenCell has a
> similar capability too ...

   Peter,

   Actually, InkWriter doesn't perform as a handwriting recognition
package. Its more of an approach in the other direction; word-processing
features applied to your actual handwriting.  It works rather well in
conjunction with Graffiti, as InkWriter's notebook accepts typed
characters (from the keyboard or any of its third-party variants) just
as easily.

   Its was most likely I who touted PenCell's ability to print in full
size, as I have been recently advertising my 'ancient' Magic Invoice
System package to demonstrate just that capability
(http://www.spies.com/lderossi).  It would probably be a bit of a
nuisance to use this method for random document generation though since
there's certain pre-setup required, like setting the appropriate column
widths.


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.

From: Charles Ashley <charlesa@EASYNET.CO.UK>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:47:55 +0100
Subject: the deal?

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Dear Magic,

A couple of key questions from a person who has been playing with my Link over
a dinner table (below are her enquiries...)  Can anyone shed any
enlightenment?

C.



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From: Dan Free <dharma@ARI.NET>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:01:51 -0400

Subject: Re: MC Goban

On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Tommy Thorn  wrote:
>Here is an idea for a simple, but very valuable, MagicCap
>application.
>The game of Go is ..... well suited for computer implementation
>(fx. 20 lines of simple C).
>If anyone is the owner of a MagicCap SDK and with interest, then I'd
>be glad to help.  .....
>

I'm another Go afficianado (Go is it's Japanese name; the game's also known as
Wei Ch'i or Paduk, in Chinese and Korean respectively) and would like to see a
Go application for the Magic Link.  The rules are not really similar to Reversi.
While programming the Envoy/Link to play against you might be great, I would
think a much easier program could be written allowing only two live players.  If
it was decided to forgo the "play against the computer" feature, then (apart
from the graphics, "reset/start", and "placing the gamepiece" functions) the
only essential item to be tackled would be writting the script for removing a
captured piece from the board and keeping a tally of each player's respective
captured pieces. While I don't have the programming capacities, I'll help "on
the fringes" if its of use.

Dan Free




From: Tony SJ <san17@MARS.SUPERLINK.NET>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:37:05 -0400

Subject: Please post all messages in Newsgroup!

Can all you people post your messages in the newsgroup
magic link or something like that.  If we all did, then you'd
see more people notice the magic cap systems and know that it
exists.



From: Jacqueline Curry <Live4Words@AOL.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:49:49 -0400

Subject: Please post all messages in Newsgroup!

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]

Dear MAGICCAP List,

>From:san17@MARS.SUPERLINK>.NET(Tony SJ):
>Can all you people post your messages in the newsgroup
magic link or something like that.

Believe me, if I could I would.  I'm in the process of finding a decent isp,
and when I do, i will.

BTW, isn't there a list that's supposed to mirror the magiccap newsgroup?
 I've sent mail through there.



From: Steve Maller <steve@MALLER.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:43:19 -0700

Subject: Re: MCW for Windows CE?

(A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups:
comp.os.magic-cap)

In article <3263A1EE.41C6@seeaxp.tay.dec.com>, Bill Holden
 wrote:

>I know it's very early to ask such a question, but what are the
>changes of MCW for Win-CE.  It seem like a perfect fix.  The timing
>could not be better.   Are there reason that this will not happen?

It's highly unlikely because of a number or reasons. First is the tight
hardware/software integration in the CE devices. They are short on RAM and
lack sufficient expansion capabilities to handle the considerable size of
the Magic Cap system. Another geeky reason is that the CE devices are based
on new-ish RISC processors (not Intel x86), making porting something of a
challenge (understatement!).
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Maller                      Free-Range Programmer
http://www.maller.com/                    Amalgamated Software Industries



From: Kevin Fries <kfries@CSN.NET>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:55:43 GMT

Subject: Re: multimedia telecards

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=46YI...
   This was the response to my comments.


On Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:11:37 -0400, Mark Marshall  =
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From: Kevin Fries <kfries@CSN.NET>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:09:44 GMT

Subject: Re: Keyboard, Keyboard, Anybody?

On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 23:11:14 -0400, Martin Focazio =

wrote:

>So, in an earlier message I mentioned the complete lack of
>keyboards for the PIC-2000 (or any other PIC for that
>matter). I was planning on actually communicating with the
>magic link, but I've got to tell you that the keyboard link
>via Magic Exchange must be running at about 45 baud, because
>I type about 90 WPM and it just can't keep up at all. Is the
>Windows version any better? Or is this the situation with
>the thing, and that's it.
>
>PS: If you are selling a keyboard, I will buy it.  Just
>send it COD.
>mf

Hi Marty,
   I mentioned two retail stores in another message, but I just thought =
of
another mailorder place that carries MagicLinks and Accessories ( I got =
my
pager card through them for $200 (list $250)).  It is called Elek-Tek and=
 I
wish I had their 800 number but can not seem to locate it now (yea, yea, =
I
know it should be in my MagicLink).  They do have a web page but the =
server
must be down now.  http://www.elektek.com

HTH

Kevin Fries
kevin_fries@mailzone.com



From: John Mignault <mignault@NYTIMES.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:27:28 -0400

Subject: Re: multimedia telecards

At 5:47 PM -0500 10/11/96, Athanasios Athanasiades wrote:
>Dear Magic,
>I understand that many of us use their desktop computers to post  text only
>messages.  Hopefully, Magic Cap for Windows will correct the situation by
>allowing multimedia capabilities even for a desktop.
>

Except of course for those of us on Macs....

>Enough said. Here is my graphical contribution
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
Kinda zen, wasn't it?

John

-----------------------------
John Mignault
Graphics Systems Programmer
The New York Times
229 W. 43rd St, 7th floor
NY, NY 10036
mignault@nytimes.com
-----------------------------



From: Paul Linhardt <plin@SONYSOFT.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:30:28 -0700

Subject: Re: Please post all messages in Newsgroup!

Jacqueline Curry  writes:
>BTW, isn't there a list that's supposed to mirror the magiccap newsgroup?
> I've sent mail through there.

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From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@comcat.com>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:40:06 -0400

Subject: Re: Please post all messages in Newsgroup!

Jacqueline Curry wrote:
>
> [This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
> America Online.]
>
> Dear MAGICCAP List,
>
> >From:san17@MARS.SUPERLINK>.NET(Tony SJ):
> >Can all you people post your messages in the newsgroup
> magic link or something like that.
>
> Believe me, if I could I would.  I'm in the process of finding a decent isp,
> and when I do, i will.
>
> BTW, isn't there a list that's supposed to mirror the magiccap newsgroup?
>  I've sent mail through there.

   Jacqueline,

   Yes, similar to magiccap and magicdev, magicdst is a mirror of the
comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup.  You can subscribe to it just like you can
the other two, and post to it the same way.


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.



From: John Mignault <mignault@NYTIMES.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:25:54 -0400

Subject: Re: Presto Problems

At 9:27 PM -0400 10/11/96, Jacqueline Curry wrote:
>[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
>America Online.]
>
>Dear MAGICCAP List,
>
>I would like to use Presto Links, and like you, I have the PIC1000.
>
>Wouldn't viewing graphics be s-l-o-w under 2400 baud?
Jacqueline,

Well, yes. But pretty much *everything* is slow at 2400 baud. If you expect
desktop browser performance you'll be disappointed.

However, there are settings to disable graphics processing, and this can
make the experience a little more tolerable. I don't do all that much
browsing on my 1K (I keep meaning to set up my WorldNet account and use
that strictly for my Link), and I wouldn't recommend it as my sole means of
accessing the Web, but it's ok for the odd page here and there. Sony
actually has a page of low-graphics sites suitable for communicator use:

http://www.sonysoft.com/sony/compages.html

John

-----------------------------
John Mignault
Graphics Systems Programmer
The New York Times
229 W. 43rd St, 7th floor
NY, NY 10036
mignault@nytimes.com
-----------------------------



From: "Eric P. Carter" <ecarter@REMEDY.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:56:16 PDT

Subject: Re: 'Snap' function

I use the snapshots to link namecards for significant others.  On each card I put a snapshot
pointing to the other person and then change the caption of each snapshot with a coupon.  It
works great!
Epc
--- On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:16:59 -0400  Luke Derossi  wrote:
Jacqueline Curry wrote:
>
> [This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
> America Online.]
>
> Dear MAGICCAP List,
>
> If you hit the option button while in the magic lamp, you will see a function
> pop out called 'snap' that takes a 'picture' of what you're seeing.  Is there
> a reason for this, or just a diversion?  Curious...

  The 'Snap' function allows you to take a 'snapshot' of the scene you
are currently at.  The resulting stamp is a miniature picture of that
scene which you can bring elsewhere and tap to warp back to that scene.
You can also drop objects on the snapshot to teleport them to that scene
too.


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.


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From: Jacqueline Curry <Live4Words@AOL.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:48:23 -0400

Subject: Re: Presto Problems

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]

Dear MAGICCAP List,

So, would disabling the graphics make Presto! Links more like a dial up
terminal?



From: Jacqueline Curry <Live4Words@AOL.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:52:44 -0400

Subject: Re: 'Snap' function

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]

Dear MAGICCAP List,

From all the responses I got about the 'snap' question, it seems like I was
the only person didn't know about its usefullness.

Question, does it take up alot of memory to have alot of 'pictures' up all
over the place?



From: Breadmold <moldy@IME.NET>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:55:27 -0400

Subject: Envoys at MacZone

I noticed in the latest MacZone catalog, that they now carry the Envoy, Marco,
and Motorola ARDIS PC card modem.  I think this may have something to do with
Motorola's new Macintosh clones.  Perhaps when someone applies to be a
Motorola reseller (for the Mac clones), they are also given a reseller license
for Envoys as well.  At any rate, it's nice to see another MagicCap machine
advertised.   One more step for MagicCap!

-moldy





From: Breadmold <moldy@IME.NET>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:55:15 -0400

Subject: MagicCap Goban?

Perhaps the IDK could be incorporated for modem/internet play!

-moldy





From: Jacqueline Curry <Live4Words@AOL.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:56:18 -0400

Subject: Quicken Confusion

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]

Dear MAGICCAP List,

I keep the bulk of my finances on the pocket quicken.  While I manage my
checking account and cash, I keep getting tripped up on the credit accounts.

I put down everything I charge, but I still keep getting different amounts
from my statements.  Is there a program that would let you compound the
interest?  It's a pain to keep changing totals.



From: Bob Buchanan <bbuchanan@MONMOUTH.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:18:11 -0400

Subject: Presto Mail Problems

I've got a problem with my presto mail. If try to receive my mail, or
get a summary, my PIC2k loggs on and reads the number of messages I
have, the just quits after a few minutes. If I log on through Presto
Links, and connect to a URL, which only works about half the time, then
I can download my mail, maybe half of the time. If I don't connect to a
URL, I get the same symtems as when I just try to get my mail through
Presto Mail. I have a PIC 2000 with 724k free. No other apps loaded
except Magic Exchange.

Can any one tell how to fix these problems?



From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@comcat.com>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:49:34 -0400

Subject: Re: Presto Problems

Jacqueline Curry wrote:
>
> [This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
> America Online.]
>
> Dear MAGICCAP List,
>
> So, would disabling the graphics make Presto! Links more like a dial up
> terminal?


  Jacqueline,

  Disabling the graphics in Presto!Links just replaces all pending
graphics on a web page with a generic 'Show Image' stamp, that you can
tap individually to load the graphic.  The text on the page loads and
formats normally.


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.



From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@comcat.com>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:54:40 -0400

Subject: Re: 'Snap' function

Jacqueline Curry wrote:
>
> [This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
> America Online.]
>
> Dear MAGICCAP List,
>
> >From all the responses I got about the 'snap' question, it seems like I was
> the only person didn't know about its usefullness.
>
> Question, does it take up alot of memory to have alot of 'pictures' up all
> over the place?


  Jacqueline,

  Each stamp is fairly small itself, however because they're not created
as part of a package, they reside in main memory.  Keep this in mind
before becoming a shutterbug. :)


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.



From: "Seppo T. Vakeva" <svakeva@IX.NETCOM.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:10:55 -0400

Subject: Magic Xchange w/SoftWindows?

Hi!

Has anybody succeeded in running Magic Xchange for Windows
with SoftWindows for Macintosh?

-- I recently bought a Windows version of the Magic Xchange
to be finally able to transfer data to and from PenCell, but
the connection quits half way, obviously due to handshaking
problems.

Any ideas?

BTW, I am sick of thinking that I should dump my extensive
Macintosh setup and repurchase all my software for the
Windows platform just to be able to use Magic Link
effectively!

Am I the only Macintosh based Magic Link user being let down
by IntelliLink?  I though Macintosh was the platform of
choise for Magic Cap developers...

Regards,

Seppo



From: Yoshiyasu NISHIBE <nishibe@ISL.NTT.CO.JP>

Date:          Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:44:11 +0900

Subject: Please unscribe me.

Please unscribe me.

--
Yoshiyasu NIHSIBE
  nishibe@isl.ntt.jp



From: Gabriel Golden <golden@USA.NET>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:52:25 -0700

Subject: Re: Quicken Confusion

At 06:56 PM 10/16/96 -0400, you wrote:
>I put down everything I charge, but I still keep getting different amounts
>from my statements.  Is there a program that would let you compound the
>interest?  It's a pain to keep changing totals.

Perhaps this is obvious, but are you entering the monthly finance charge
from your credit card statement as a transaction in your credit card account
on Pocket Quicken?

I too use PQ for all my personal finances, including two credit cards. Part
of the monthly balancing procedure for me is entering the Finance Charge
from the amount listed on my credit card statement. To do this, from the
Wallet, tap Personal, then tap the folder for your credit card(s), then tap
New. Select Wtihdrawal, then select Finance Charge to enter the information.
When you are back to the transaction list, BE SURE to switch on the "check
mark" for the Finance Charge transaction. You should then balance.

Hope this helps,
Gabe
* moralinefree publishing ...             *
* Celebrating the will of the individual  *
* and the stupidity of the herd.          *
* http://home.earthlink.net/~moralinefree *
* E-mail: moralinefree@earthlink.net      *



From: Jacqueline Curry <Live4Words@AOL.COM>

Date:          Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:27:22 -0400

Subject: Re: Quicken Confusion

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]

Dear MAGICCAP List,

Thanks.  So, the finance charge will have to be entered every month like it
was a new charge?  I was wondering if a formula, like setting a percentage
that would automatically be added monthly (on the day the statement cuts)
could be added.



From: Kevin Fries <kfries@CSN.NET>

Date:          Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:48:40 GMT

Subject: Re: 'Snap' function

On Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:52:44 -0400, Jacqueline Curry 
wrote:

>[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device =
on
>America Online.]
>
>Dear MAGICCAP List,
>
>>From all the responses I got about the 'snap' question, it seems like I=
 was
>the only person didn't know about its usefullness.
>
>Question, does it take up alot of memory to have alot of 'pictures' up =
all
>over the place?

Actually, if you want to move quickly from most anywhere to most =
anywhere,
I would recomend going to the spies archive and picking up a copy of
"Favorite Places".  It allows you to save bookmarks of all your favorite
screens just like the snap, but places them on the option-desk.  That =
will
prevent you from having to have six snap shots to the solitare game =
spread
across your entire system.  One snap shot of the solitare game is stored
and can be reached from anywhere (even places you may not have thought to
put it) by option-tapping the desk then tapping solitare.  It would =
really
cut down that resource problem in a hurry and is IMHO much simplier.

HTH

Kevin Fries
kevin_fries@mailzone.com



From: Kevin Fries <kfries@CSN.NET>

Date:          Thu, 17 Oct 1996 03:56:10 GMT

Subject: Re: Presto Problems

On Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:48:23 -0400, Jacqueline Curry 
wrote:
>So, would disabling the graphics make Presto! Links more like a dial up
>terminal?

Disabling graphics in Presto!Links is just like disabling auto-load
graphics in Netscape.  Only difference is you have to option click reload
to get all graphics, in Netscape you have a desktop button.  No =
difference.

HTH

Kevin Fries
kevin_fries@mailzone.com




 



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