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Wednesday September 18, 1996


From: Predrag Minovic <minovic@IM.ISL.SECOM.CO.JP>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:26:10 +0900
Subject: Image import

        I'm trying to e-mail a uuencoded image to my ML. I tried jpeg format
first but there was a message saying that JPEG is not suported by the
communicator's software (I'm using ML-2000 like ML-2100J on Paseo in Japan).

        Then I tried GIF format (GIF89a), image 80x120 pixels, with 256
colors in the color table. UUDeocde reported "file with unknown content". Do
I have to convert gif to the color table with 4 entries (for 4 ML
gray-scales) and if so what are gray-scale values for two middle entries?

        BTW, now we have the, so called, forum service, actually 4 news
groups accessible using the "Forum Cafe" package developed, by all
appearances, by NTT here. It's very cool. You first tap the waiter to get
the list of messages not read yet. Then you mark those you want to read and
connect once again. All messages are in hand-written Japanese --- Japanese
environment is badly needed here. The above topic was posted there about a
week ago but I thought I first try it by myself.

        Any help will be appreciated.

P. Minovic, Tokyo


From: Mark Marshall <MaxLink644@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 03:31:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Lines

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]






                         From: Mark Marshall
                     Monday, September 16, 1996  10:26 a.m.
                 To: Linkers

Dear Linkers,

Linkers writes:
> Oh, please. The screen lines at high
> contrast aren't specific to the ML or
> poor design or an attempt by Sony or GM
> to rip you off. I have never seen
> so much spurious paranoia and whining
> on any list as I do from certain
> quarters of this one. God knows I don't
> think the platforms are perfect.
> They're not. But the stuff they do is
> cool enough that I can live with the
> odd glitches. And I'm using a PIC-1000.
> If you can't live with the
> limitations, sell your ML and get a
> Newton, and then you can bitch at them
> on a list where I won't have to listen
> to you.

Could not have said it better if my life depended on it.  Bravo.


From: Rod Sprattling <rls@WISEWORKS.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 03:43:10 -0400
Subject: Call for Collabortive Engineering Participants

Dear MAGICCAP and MAGICDEV,

The Pilot's got one.  The Psion has one.  The Newton's got at least two.
Event the Sony PIC 1000 has one.  But the poor PIC 2000 - ah, there's one
handheld computing device that *doesn't* currently have a financial app
available.  But we can fix that.

If you know how to elide and express system requirements, draft and refine
a system architeture, craft a UI design or simply (!) bash code for Magic Cap
devices, you can join the Magic Cap Financial App Collaborative
Engineering Project.

The general goal of the Project is to, well, draft volunteers into
collaboartively developing a financial app for the Magic Cap platform.
By participating you will be hard pressed not to gain some benefits of
project experience, including but not limited to making new friends
and enemies; learning how to craft good design and bury bad design;
experiencing the hysteric joy of working code delivered on time and
the sheer despair of chasing Heisenbugs at 4 a.m., and feeling that
odd mixture of triumph, relief and chagrin when your responsibilities
have been artfully dispatched.

You join by declaring your intent to MAGICDEV, and then by participating
in the establishment and operations of the effort. Although the rules of
involvement have yet to be written (by the participants
themselves), this rule seems prima face evident: sign up for work only if
you're prepared to complete it, and retire only if your work is done or
you're prepared to first find your own replacement.  There's no Boss to
worry about and fix staffing issues, and without dependable resources we
run the risk of dooming the project.  It would help, in fact, for each
participant to determine, before publicly signing up for a task,
what her/his level of commitment can be. Realism helps level the
landscape for all.

That's all. I have no predefined role in this whole affair (other than
being the instigator) but will happily cherry-pick when the skins are
handed out.

This same announcement will appear again about a week from now.  Experience
suggests that stable teams get the most done, so I suggest that we close
participation for this first version on 30 September.  Oh, and one more
thing:  to avoid cluttering MAGICDEV or MAGICCAP with project
communications let's set up another mailing list.  I'll check with
my ISP about setting up a listserv; if that fails (i.e., he's wants to
charge me $50/month) I'll post the need to MAGICDEV.

Regards,

Rod Sprattling


From: John Beechler <vegasj@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 01:56:14 -0700
Subject: Re 2 meg sram card...

Alan Latteri writes:
>>How can I get in touch with "Reboot"?

Their phone number is
(201) 457-1980

John in Vegas


From: Richard Haeusler <rihaeu@HAEUSLER.K.KUNDE.EUNET.DE>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:33:04 -0700
Subject: Automatic Magic Cap List generator

Hi together,

plesa stop the auromatic magic cap list generator for my E-Mail adress!

Many Thanks and best best regards
Richard Haeusler


From: Dan Free <dharma@ARI.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:11:55 -0400
Subject: Bookreader

Fellow Caps,

I have a PIC-1000 with a 1meg SRAM card.  I've loaded the Algoresearch
bookreader onto my card, and have approx. 800K available on it.  I have cleaned
out main memory, and have roughly 490K available there.  I can't load the CIA
Fact Book, because (I'm told by a Sony Techie) I would need to have about twice
the room available in main memory as the package involved, and the CIA Fact Book
is over 300K.  This despite having directed that "New Items Go Here" on my
memory card.  I'm told that all items imported via Magic Exchange *must* go
first to main memory.

This being true, then the Algoresearch app is workable only on a PIC-2000 or on
a PIC-100 only for texts less than approximately 250K.

Is there a work around for us PIC-1000 users who want to load larger texts???

Thanks to all....

Dan Free


From: Tony San Juan <san17@MARS.SUPERLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:12:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Re 2 meg sram card...

John Beechler wrote:
>
> Alan Latteri writes:
> >>How can I get in touch with "Reboot"?
>
> Their phone number is
> (201) 457-1980
>
> John in Vegas

Can anyone confirm that these SRAM cards work witht the Magic Link?


From: Shawn Jipp <sjipp@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 07:16:52 -0700
Subject: help

How/where do I get the 1.0f upgrade?   I had to pull the batteries and lost
it.
Can it be backed up to SRAM card?

Thanks.

///////Shawn Jipp
sjipp@ix.netcom.com


From: jonathan <jonathan@AXONE.CH>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:44:22 +0100
Subject: Re: Bookreader

At 10:11 AM 9/18/96 -0400, you wrote:

>I have a PIC-1000 with a 1meg SRAM card.  I've loaded the Algoresearch
>bookreader onto my card, and have approx. 800K available on it.  I have cleaned
>out main memory, and have roughly 490K available there.  I can't load the CIA
>Fact Book, because (I'm told by a Sony Techie) I would need to have about twice
>the room available in main memory as the package involved, and the CIA Fact
Book
>
>
>This being true, then the Algoresearch app is workable only on a PIC-2000 or on
>a PIC-100 only for texts less than approximately 250K.
>
>Is there a work around for us PIC-1000 users who want to load larger texts???
>

>Dan Free
>

Here is a hepfull hint:
if you have installed the BatchUp package in your pic-1000 you can then
perform a direct copy from magic exchange to any ram card inserted on your
comunicator.

John..


From: Bread Mold <moldy@IME.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:41:22 -0400
Subject:

This message contains mail encoded for MagicCap

--magicmail

Alan Latteri writes:
> Screen upgrade is about 280
> bucks

I don't understand why motorola doesn't make this upgrade available to
PIC-1000 users!  Sure, $280.00 is pocket change to them, but an upgrade
service for non envoy people would be incredible.  I think almost every
PIC-1000 user would ship their links off for the wacky backlight.  Am I just
completely out of my mind or is it corporate America again?
Youch!

-moldy
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From: Bread Mold <moldy@IME.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:41:53 -0400
Subject: Image import

This message contains mail encoded for MagicCap

--magicmail

Predrag Minovic writes:
> I'm trying to e-mail a uuencoded image to my ML.

Try downloading "Transporter" from deep within the catacombs of www.genma
ic.com.  If you have a mac and a magicxchange cable, you can bring graphics
and sound over to your 'link.  The program uses the modem port - which I keep
my modem hooked up to at all times, so don't try importing the same picture
thirty times through the printer port, or you'll end up tearing your hair out
like I did!

-moldy
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From: Wayne Sanderson <whsander@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:10:11 -0700
Subject: Re: Call for collaborative engineering effort

Rod Sprattling writes:
> Oh, and one more
> thing:  to avoid cluttering MAGICDEV or MAGICCAP
> with project
> communications let's set up another mailing list.
>  I'll check with
> my ISP about setting up a listserv; if that fails
> (i.e., he's wants to
> charge me $50/month) I'll post the need to
> MAGICDEV.
> Regards,
> Rod Sprattling

Why not use the comp.os.magiccap list for this? It's been pretty bare lately.
The platform is all but dead in the minds of the doomsayers, and the
comp.os.magiccap newsgroup is something they can point to for proof. It might
even be monitored by Intuit; It would be nice to put a bug in their butts with
easily monitored details on a new financial app that they spawned through
their own avarice.
My above statement about comp.os.magiccap is a belief I've held to myself for
a while, but perhaps the time has come to say this out loud. We seem to have
been making vigorous use of the magiccap list and none at all of magicdst.
Magiccap does not mirror on the comp.os.magiccap newsgroup and magicdst does.
Does it seem to anyone else as though we have withdrawn into a nice safe semiobscure mailing list, like a bunch of heretics hiding from the forces of the
inquisition wielding their Newtons and Pilots?. I am beginning to feel like
that with regards to this list.
Out in public, I sell Magic Links. I am not a salesperson, nor do I work for a
retailer. I am an expert demonstrator and power user. I don't know everything,
but I generally knock peoples socks off showing them what it will do. I feel
it is my duty; Sony refuses to market these terrific products, so I get the
word out on my favorite platform as best I can.
Maybe we should all start getting the word out that these devices are not
dead. Maybe we should cc all messages we send to the discussion list to dst
for distribution on comp.os.magiccap. Or just adjourn to magicdst altogether.
Lets parade all of this good info and activity under the noses of those who
monitor the newsgroup with glee as days go by with no postings. If we stop
using the newsgroup, it may eventually get cancelled, and that will be even be
even better proof that MC is dead. Anybody else vote yes for comp.os.magiccap?


From: Kent Estep <kent@BOSS.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:35:13 -0700
Subject: Re: Best Price on Sony PIC-2000

I called the Egghead 800 number (800-EGGHEAD) or look at their web site...

PIC-2000 $499


-kent

--
----------------------------------------------------------
BOSS Digital Studios
http://www.pacificnet.net/~estep       http://www.boss.com
estep@pacificnet.net                   kent@boss.com


From: Steve Wolfson <wolfson@UCS.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:28:26 -0700
Subject: Re: Financial Packages for MC

Well part of the lack of response might just be volume.
I've seen requests but no numbers on the how many MC devices are out
out there. Are there enough units to make it worth intuit's time
and effort to continue development.

There is of course another alternative.
Get them to put Secure Server in Presto Links and we could access
Security First Network Bank, then you could even pay bills directly
from your MC.


From: Aaron Wallace <aaron@IFACT.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:48:27 -0700
Subject: Re: Bookreader

At 10:11 AM 9/18/96 -0400, you wrote:

>This being true, then the Algoresearch app is workable only on a PIC-2000 or on
>a PIC-100 only for texts less than approximately 250K.
>
>Is there a work around for us PIC-1000 users who want to load larger texts???

I think the trick (if I remember) is to copy the file into
the Backup directory under mxchange, give it the appropriate extension,
and restore it.

This is how the Presto!stuff is installed...

+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Aaron Wallace                        The Internet Factory, Inc.   |
|  aaron@ifact.com                            http://www.ifact.com   |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+


From: Aaron Wallace <aaron@IFACT.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 09:15:00 -0700
Subject:

At 10:41 AM 9/18/96 -0400, you wrote:

>I don't understand why motorola doesn't make this upgrade available to
>PIC-1000 users!  Sure, $280.00 is pocket change to them, but an upgrade
>service for non envoy people would be incredible.  I think almost every
>PIC-1000 user would ship their links off for the wacky backlight.  Am I just
>completely out of my mind or is it corporate America again?

Maybe the PIC-1000 can't be retrofitted with the new screen.  Maybe
there'd be too many warranty issues.  Maybe they're losing $$$ at $280,
but are doing it to keep customer loyalty.

+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  Aaron Wallace                        The Internet Factory, Inc.   |
|  aaron@ifact.com                            http://www.ifact.com   |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+


From: "D'Angelo, Leo" <Leo.D'Angelo@FMR.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 12:12:00 -0400
Subject: FW: Best Price on Sony PIC-2000

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Actually EggHead sells PIC-2000's for $499.
I have not seen a lower price than this when purchased
new.. Good Luck!

 -LeoD
 ----------
From:  Tony San Juan[SMTP:san17@MARS.SUPERLINK.NET]
Sent:  Tuesday, September 17, 1996 11:08 PM
To:  Multiple recipients of list MAGICCAP
Subject:  Re: Best Price on Sony PIC-2000

Kent Estep wrote:
>
> Anyone know of a better price than $499 for a Sony PIC-2000 ?
>
> And any help on finding a decent price on a 2MB SRAM card would
> also be appreciated...
>
> -kent
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> BOSS Digital Studios
> http://www.pacificnet.net/~estep       http://www.boss.com
> estep@pacificnet.net                   kent@boss.com

Where the f$#$ can you get a PIC-2000 for 499?  Are you nuts?
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From: Colby Kraybill <colby@BIGBOOK.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 09:38:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Financial Packages for MC

On Sep 18,  8:28am, Steve Wolfson wrote:
> Subject: Re: Financial Packages for MC
> Well part of the lack of response might just be volume.
> I've seen requests but no numbers on the how many MC devices are out
> out there. Are there enough units to make it worth intuit's time
> and effort to continue development.
>
> There is of course another alternative.
> Get them to put Secure Server in Presto Links and we could access
> Security First Network Bank, then you could even pay bills directly
> from your MC.
>-- End of excerpt from Steve Wolfson

I recently signed up for Bank of America's home banking thingie.
It is possible to grab all of the transactions for your accounts in a
qif (quicken interchange format ?) file.  Does anyone know if it's
possible to get pocket quicken on the PIC1000 to consume this
file and generate useful information from it?

- Colby


--
colby@bigbook.com

People who are more than casually interested in computers should
have at least some idea of what the underlying hardware is like.
Otherwise the programs they write will be pretty weird.
- Knuth


From: Bruce Tong <zztong@MAIL.EV.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:08:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Best Price on Sony PIC-2000

> I called the Egghead 800 number (800-EGGHEAD) or look at their web site...
>
> PIC-2000 $499

I'll be "darned." Its true. I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen it
with my own eyes. I'll bet this is a fluke, but what's advertised is
what's honored.

--

Bruce Tong
Systems Programmer
Electronic Vision / Fitne

Work:

Phone : (614) 592-2511
Fax   : (614) 592-2650
mailto:zztong@evi.ev.net
http://www.ev.net/fitne

Play:

mailto:zztong@eurekanet.com
mailto:zztong@aol.com
http://www.eurekanet.com/~zztong


From: jonathan <jonathan@AXONE.CH>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:23:58 +0100
Subject: need a PIC-1000

Does any one knows were I can buy a very cheap PIC-1000.
Used or new.
thanx
John


From: Bruce Tong <zztong@MAIL.EV.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:42:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Number of Devices

> Well part of the lack of response might just be volume.
> I've seen requests but no numbers on the how many MC devices are out
> out there. Are there enough units to make it worth intuit's time
> and effort to continue development.

PDA Developers reports in the Sept/Oct issue shipping ESTIMATES made by
the Yankee Group. The list is by company, not by platform. According to
the report, Sony has shipped 31,000 units and Motorolla has shipped
20,500 units.

The report doesn't say how many Sony units were PIC-2000s vs PIC-1000s,
nor does it say how many of Motorolla's sales were the various types of
Envoys vs Marcos. The report also fails to state the time period covered
by these estimates, so we don't know if this is shipments for a year, or
whatever. Finally, the report doesn't describe what "shipped" means. So
I have no idea if those are considered sales to end-users, or not. If
somebody is better qualified to comment on these number, please do so.

The report does say PDA Developer got this information from a story in
NewtNews, which is apparently available via the Internet.

So, there you go, almost. Despite the fact that the numbers are all but
useless, you have numbers. Now all we need is the other parts of Intuits
equation for a breakeven point, such as development, marketing, and
support cost estimates. Good luck getting those. ;)

--

Bruce Tong
Systems Programmer
Electronic Vision / Fitne

Work:

Phone : (614) 592-2511
Fax   : (614) 592-2650
mailto:zztong@evi.ev.net
http://www.ev.net/fitne

Play:

mailto:zztong@eurekanet.com
mailto:zztong@aol.com
http://www.eurekanet.com/~zztong


From: Paul Linhardt <plin@SONYSOFT.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:52:17 -0700
Subject: Re: help

>How/where do I get the 1.0f upgrade?   I had to pull the batteries and lost
>it.
>Can it be backed up to SRAM card?
>
>Thanks.
>
>///////Shawn Jipp
>sjipp@ix.netcom.com

Even though PLS is gone, I think you can still use Eternity (on the Spies
site) to install the 1.0f patch.

My second suggestion would be to call 1-800-55MAGIC and ask Sony Tech
Support if they can help.

Good luck,
-Paul

---------------------
Sony New Technologies
http://www.sonysoft.com
1-800-739-7337
E-mail: plin@sonysoft.com


From: Scott Yoshinaga <scott@HISURF.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:27:05 -1000
Subject: Re: Call for collaborative engineering effort

On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Wayne Sanderson wrote:
*SNIP*
> a while, but perhaps the time has come to say this out loud. We seem to have
> been making vigorous use of the magiccap list and none at all of magicdst.
> Magiccap does not mirror on the comp.os.magiccap newsgroup and magicdst does.
> Does it seem to anyone else as though we have withdrawn into a nice safe semiobscure mailing list, like a bunch of heretics hiding from the forces of the
> inquisition wielding their Newtons and Pilots?. I am beginning to feel like
> that with regards to this list.
> Out in public, I sell Magic Links. I am not a salesperson, nor do I work for a
> retailer. I am an expert demonstrator and power user. I don't know everything,
> but I generally knock peoples socks off showing them what it will do. I feel
> it is my duty; Sony refuses to market these terrific products, so I get the
> word out on my favorite platform as best I can.
> Maybe we should all start getting the word out that these devices are not
> dead. Maybe we should cc all messages we send to the discussion list to dst

*SNIP*

I agree with you. The device is NOT dead by any means. I have gotten at
least 4 people in less than three weeks to purchase one. We are debating
on wether to start a small club here in Hawaii. I still think that this
thing beats the Newt or any other PDA hands down..with its large display
and Web/POP/VT100 capabilities what web/communications/email junkie
wouldnt want one of these! It can even be used as a phone!!!!

All we want is some support! Right? New software.... better software for
the PIC 1000 and support!
=)

aloha
\\scott\\


From: Curt Steindler <Steindler@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:01:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Call for collaborative engineering effort

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]

Wayne Sanderson writes:
> Lets parade all of this good info and activity
> under the noses of those who
> monitor the newsgroup with glee as days go by
> with no postings. If we stop
> using the newsgroup, it may eventually get
> cancelled, and that will be even be
> even better proof that MC is dead. Anybody else
> vote yes for comp.os.magiccap?

Wayne, I, for one, am all in favor of this. The more we can move the
discussions to a forum which will show people that MC and ML are active,
vibrant technologies, the better!

The only problem I foresee is that I can only read e-mail with my ML since I
am using AOL. (I do read the newsgroup daily from my desktop, however.) It
seems to me that discussions about Magic Cap should be easily accessable from
MC devices. (If someone could tell me if Prest!* allows newsgroup access, I
would apprecaite it. I might even be persuaded to get an ISP and Presto! if
it does!)

On the other hand, I'm a lawyer, not a programmer, so I can't really add
anything to the development of the financial package anyway (maybe beta
tesing?) so it is probably safe to ignore me. :>

Curt Steindler


From: Scott Yoshinaga <scott@HISURF.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:13:37 -1000
Subject: Re: Call for Collabortive Engineering Participants

id love to participate as soon as my magic Cap Cookbook gets into my
nearby Borders books...couldnt find any Magic books here in hawaii...all
the bookstores sent them back to the distributors.


From: Kevin Fries <kfries@CSN.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:23:03 -0600
Subject: Re: Import/Export w/ MagicXChange

Hi Magic,
Luke Derossi writes:
>  How large a text file are you attempting to
> import?  It seems there is an 8K limitation to
> Magic XChange (the original version, at least)
> for notebook pages.  If I remember correctly when
> I was attempting to import Etexts greater than
> 8K, it goes through the motions of importing, but
> nothing actually appears on the device.  I wrote
> a quick MS-DOS command line program that'll parse
> a text file into <8K chunks for importing to a
> communicator's notebook.  Let me know if you
> think that's the problem and I'll dig it up and
> send you a copy.

It seems to me that the 8k limit is more likely the size of a notebook page.
Is there a way to place something into the text file to format it to multiple
pages?

Kevin Fries


From: Joe Solem <JoeSolem@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:46:21 -0400
Subject: Re: help

Sony will send the 1.0f patch to you via AOL or on a floppy. I got mine
last week on a 3.5 floppy for Mac/Magic Xchange.

Joe Solem



>>How/where do I get the 1.0f upgrade?   I had to pull the batteries and lost
>>it.
>>Can it be backed up to SRAM card?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>///////Shawn Jipp
>>sjipp@ix.netcom.com
>
>Even though PLS is gone, I think you can still use Eternity (on the Spies
>site) to install the 1.0f patch.
>
>My second suggestion would be to call 1-800-55MAGIC and ask Sony Tech
>Support if they can help.
>
>Good luck,
>-Paul


From: Erik de Ruijter <erikdr@IAEHV.NL>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:04:47 +0200
Subject: Re: installing bookreader archives

From: Erik de Ruijter/ Algorithmic Research, The Netherlands.

Re: Bookreader

Dear Cappers,

I suspect there is a magic xchange problem.

We tested downloading the bookreader archives using magic xchange
for windows. That works just fine. I must confess that we do have
had problems to download both small AND large packages using the mac.
we do not know why.

The way we work, is touching the computer at the left
hand side of the hallway after having connected the device
to the computer

Then, we set the backup directory in the settings/backup
dialog to the directory that contains the bookreader archives.

then, you should after some seconds, see the archives that are
on the disk of the computer to be listed on the shelf of the
device.

NOW, DO **NOT** DO ANYTHING ON THE COMPUTER.

ON THE DEVICE, drag any of the archives directly from the computer
link shelf to the destination shelf (either main memory, or a pc card).

IF YOU USE THE INSTALL PACKAGE PROCEDURE, THE PACKAGE WILL
GO TO MAIN MEMORY !!!!! THIS THE PROBLEM whsander@IX.NETCOM.COM
HAD. DRAG THE FILES BETWEEN SHELVES, DO **NOT** INSTALL THEM.

after that, if necessary, unpack, and things should work.

do not forget to disconnect before starting bookreader, because
magic xchange takes up 100k of main memory (so I once read).

upon opening an archive, bookreader hashes the archive, to make
sure that we are not using a corrupted archive. it should not
be possible to crash bookreader because of a faulty archive.

*** NOTE ***
we once had an archive that was corrupted once installed on the
web server. I will compare the files that are on the server now,
to see to it that they are correct.
I need some time to do this, and I will let know asap.
***   ***

hope this helps,

erik

=================================================================
Erik de Ruijter/ Algorithmic Research
-----------------------------------------------------------------
- e-mail : erikdr@iaehv.nl
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From: Josh Schrier <0schrier_j@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:04:01 -0400
Subject: Re: help

On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Joe Solem wrote:

> Sony will send the 1.0f patch to you via AOL or on a floppy. I got mine
> last week on a 3.5 floppy for Mac/Magic Xchange.
>
> Joe Solem
>

What exactly is the 1.0f patch?

--Josh


From: Erik de Ruijter <erikdr@IAEHV.NL>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:13:01 +0200
Subject: bookreader on envoy???

From: Erik de Ruijter/ Algorithmic Research, The Netherlands.
To: magiccap
Re: bookreader on envoy?

Hi,

Has anyone tried running bookreader on any of the motorola
devices? Since we have never had the opportunity to try it,
I would be happy to know if it works.

Thanks,

Erik.

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From: "David Devaney, Jr." <daviddjr@SHADOW.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:09:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Financial Packages for MC

This message contains mail encoded for MagicCap

--magicmail

Hi Magicappers

Steve Wolfson writes:
> Well part of the lack of response might just be
> volume. I've seen requests but no numbers on the how
> many MC devices are out out there. Are there enough
> units to make it worth intuit's time and effort to
> continue development.

I can't imagine that there are that many more users of Franklin
Book(whatever)s that would warrant them creating a version for that, yet they
did.  Plus with the MagicCap devices there is already a user base for this
version.

David Devaney, Jr.
daviddjr@shadow.net

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From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:26:59 -0400
Subject:

Bread Mold wrote:
>
> Alan Latteri writes:
> > Screen upgrade is about 280
> > bucks
>
> I don't understand why motorola doesn't make this upgrade available to
> PIC-1000 users!  Sure, $280.00 is pocket change to them, but an upgrade
> service for non envoy people would be incredible.  I think almost every
> PIC-1000 user would ship their links off for the wacky backlight.  Am I just
> completely out of my mind or is it corporate America again?
> Youch!
>
> -moldy


  Moldy,

  The Envoy's design is quite a bit different than the Magic Links.  Its
a two-piece design.  The screen is a separate flip-up piece, which can
most likely be changed/upgraded very simply and easily by swapping out
the entire flip-up lid.  On the Magic Link, the screen is more
integrated and would require an entirely different replacement
procedure.  Also, there is zero tolerance in the Magic Link case for
anything but the screen that is in there now, so if the Envoy screen was
just a hair larger or of different dimensions, it wouldn't fit.



Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.


From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:40:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Import/Export w/ MagicXChange

Kevin Fries wrote:
>
> Hi Magic,
> Luke Derossi writes:
> >  How large a text file are you attempting to
> > import?  It seems there is an 8K limitation to
> > Magic XChange (the original version, at least)
> > for notebook pages.  If I remember correctly when
> > I was attempting to import Etexts greater than
> > 8K, it goes through the motions of importing, but
> > nothing actually appears on the device.  I wrote
> > a quick MS-DOS command line program that'll parse
> > a text file into <8K chunks for importing to a
> > communicator's notebook.  Let me know if you
> > think that's the problem and I'll dig it up and
> > send you a copy.
>
> It seems to me that the 8k limit is more likely the size of a notebook page.
> Is there a way to place something into the text file to format it to multiple
> pages?
>
> Kevin Fries


  Kevin,

  The notebook pages can contain much more actually.  I've taken a 40K+
Etext, sliced it for transmission, imported the 6 separate files, and
then cut and paste them back together on one notebook page.  I
eventually found that scrolling through such a large notebook page was
tiresome, so I began leaving them in the 8K separate-page chunks they
imported as.


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.


From: "Rick Tasher (via RadioMail)" <palpha6@RADIOMAIL.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:47:55 -0700
Subject: Re: bookreader on envoy???

Wed., Sept. 18, 1996 5:27 p.m.

Erik de Ruijter writes:
> Has anyone tried running bookreader on any of the motorola
> devices? Since we have never had the opportunity to try it,
> I would be happy to know if it works.

In a quick test, I did install the demos and data files onto an regular
Envoy using Mac Magic Xchange at the highest baud rate, and everything
worked fine on the first try.

Pretty cool app.  Now I need to make some books...

Rick Tasher
Motorola WDG


From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:47:21 -0400
Subject: Re: help

Josh Schrier wrote:
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Joe Solem wrote:
>
> > Sony will send the 1.0f patch to you via AOL or on a floppy. I got mine
> > last week on a 3.5 floppy for Mac/Magic Xchange.
> >
> > Joe Solem
> >
>
> What exactly is the 1.0f patch?
>
> --Josh


  The 1.0f patch corrects a variety of issues, almost all of them
transparent to the user (memory management, object handling).  The most
significant 'visible' bug it corrects is one where every 45 days or so,
the date would get set back automatically by several years.  If you
don't have it already, its available from Sony support at (800) 55-MAGIC
through AOL, or on floppy.


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.


From: Paul Linhardt <plin@SONYSOFT.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:10:18 -0700
Subject: How to get the Magic Cap Cookbook

Scott Yoshinaga  writes:
>id love to participate as soon as my magic Cap Cookbook gets into my
>nearby Borders books...couldnt find any Magic books here in hawaii...all
>the bookstores sent them back to the distributors.

You can also order it from Cbooks the web-based bookstore run by former
General Magic evangelists Chris MacAskill & Kim Orumchian.  Cbooks is at
http://www.cbooks.com/

There is a link to it in the "Magic on the Web" section of our web site.
There is also a listing of several other books available on Magic Cap
there.

Best Regards,
-Paul

---------------------
Sony New Technologies
http://www.sonysoft.com
1-800-739-7337
E-mail: plin@sonysoft.com


From: Erik de Ruijter <erikdr@IAEHV.NL>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 01:26:10 +0200
Subject: bookreader problem

From: Erik de Ruijter/ Algorithmic Research, The Netherlands.
To: magiccap, janderso@MNSINC.COM
Re: bookreader problem

Hi Justin Martin Anderson,

Sorry that you have been having trouble with downloading.
I tried downloading all our packages, and ran into the same
problem for one package (holmes). All the other ones went fine.

I used netscape (PC version 2) and magic xchange for windows.

Here is what happens: sometimes, the communication is interrupted,
or gets timed-out, and consequently is aborted. Unfortunately,
this is not properly signalled by netscape: the user is NOT notified
(I ended up having a holmes-filesize of 886784 in stead of 1045883,
and NOT A SINGLE ERROR MESSAGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Then, the downloaded file on the computer does not have the
correct size.

Magic Xchange files have the size of the package in the
header, and therefore everything lists normally on the shelf
(where the size is displayed) in the storeroom.

If you now start downloading, to the device, the download crashes
in a miserable way, because magic xchange expects a longer file
from the disk than there actually is.

Only solution I can think of: download again, and check the filesize.

They should be:

Bookreader: 54227
Bookreader Manual: 18059
Holmes: 1045883
King James Bible: 982014
Comedies: 679349
Histories: 477266
Sonnets: 42775
Tragedies: 470754
CIA World Factbook '96: 406519

I verified all files again this evening:
- they have the correct filesize
- they can be downloaded using magic xchange for windows
- they work fine in the bookreader.

once again: bookreader calculates a hash over the archive,
to make sure is is not corrupted.

I addition to that, on initialisation of a book, we calculate
a hash over all components to make sure the components of the
book are consistent.

It should simply not be possible that the bookreader package
crashes if the file is corrupt.

If you have a corrupted file, and magic xchange crashes, I am
sorry, but I cannot help that.

Please try again, and thank you for your patience.

Most kind regards,

Erik de Ruijter.

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-----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "Lily N. Koessel" <lily@koessel.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:43:47 +0000
Subject: Re: Re 2 meg sram card...

Sorry if someone has already responded. My mailer got weird today..

Yes, these GRID SRAM cards from Reboot do work. I have four from them
in use in a PIC-2000, PIC-1000 and a Zoomer.

> > >>How can I get in touch with "Reboot"?
> >
> > Their phone number is
> > (201) 457-1980
> >
> > John in Vegas
>
> Can anyone confirm that these SRAM cards work witht the Magic Link?
>

Lily Koessel
lily@koessel.com


From: Tony San Juan <san17@MARS.SUPERLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:52:37 -0400
Subject: Medical Software

Can anyone around here develop a Medical Reference Text for the
Magic Link?


From: Tony San Juan <san17@MARS.SUPERLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:53:48 -0400
Subject: Re: bookreader problem

What's the difference between the Demo version of the Bookreader
and the registered version?


From: Wayne Sanderson <whsander@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:33:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Call for collaborative

Curt Steindler writes:
> The only problem I foresee is that I can only
> read e-mail with my ML since I
> am using AOL. (I do read the newsgroup daily from
> my desktop, however.) It
> seems to me that discussions about Magic Cap
> should be easily accessable from
> MC devices. (If someone could tell me if Prest!*
> allows newsgroup access, I
> would apprecaite it. I might even be persuaded to
> get an ISP and Presto! if
> it does!)

There are three mailing lists at Brown U. MAGICCAP is this list, MAGICDEV is
the developer's list, and MAGICDST is a mirror of the comp.os.magiccap
newsgroup. Whatever gets posted to comp.os.magiccap from out there in the
usenet world goes out to those subscribed to DST as a mailing just like this,
and whatever gets posted to MAGICDST is automatically posted on
comp.os.magiccap. This is one newsgroup that you don't need usenet access to
follow. Just subscribe to DST the same way you signed up for this list.

Taking the traffic from this list over to DST will create more usenet traffic
on this subject. Just cc:ing all postings to DST will do the same thing, but I
think that taking the show over to DST, and subsequently onto usenet, will be
beneficial to the continuation and generation of interest in the Magic Cap
platform.


From: Wayne Sanderson <whsander@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:32:46 -0700
Subject: Re: installing bookreader

Erik de Ruijter writes:
> IF YOU USE THE INSTALL PACKAGE PROCEDURE, THE
> PACKAGE WILL
> GO TO MAIN MEMORY !!!!! THIS THE PROBLEM
> whsander@IX.NETCOM.COM
> HAD. DRAG THE FILES BETWEEN SHELVES, DO **NOT**
> INSTALL THEM.
> after that, if necessary, unpack, and things
> should work.

Actually, I never did what you describe as my mistake. I have followed what
you describe as the correct method for the installation of every piece of
software on my PIC1000. The package, on the six(6) attempts that I have made
to install it, using the method you describe, and using Magic XChange for
Windows, has failed to properly transfer. I even downloaded the CIA WFB
package a second time from Algorithmic Research on the off chance that the
original download got distorted in transfer. Same thing. Bottom line: the
package won't load.


From: Steve Eyler <seyler@WORLDACCESS.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:54:38 -0700
Subject: Several questions

Hi!  I'm new to this list.  My name is Steve Eyler and I'm a networking
nerd in Vancouver, Washington.  I just bought a Sony Magic Link PIC-2000
last weekend.  I've never seen anything this cool!  I have used a Casio
Boss for the last three years.  Absolutely no comparison!

I do have several questions, however.  Perhaps someone who's bored might
take a second to see if they can help??

First of all, I'm already finding that I'm definitely going to want more
memory.  I installed Presto!Links, Presto!Mail, and some of the various
freebies from www.spies.com.  Already , I'm down to just around 200k...
no good if I plan to file my eMail and browse the web!  Does anyone have
a suggestion on where I can find the largest and cheapest SRAM cards?
Can I use an SRAM card in both slots?

Also, on my INBOX rules I have specified that I want to automatically
reformat Internet eMails.  For some reason, it's not doing it.  I have
to click the lamp and reformat manually.  Any ideas?

On web browsing: I tried browsing our corporate home page
(www.gstcorp.com) and encountered an imagemap.  The book implies that
imagemaps are supported, however I can't click on a button to jump to
another URL.  Huh?

How about development tools for Windows?  I know there's a development
kit for the Mac, is there one in the works for Windows or OS/2?

I heard talk of a bookreader?  And there's books I assume that go with
it... where can I find info on that?

Lastly, I receive eMails from various automated systems on my network
informing me of it's performance (I should say informing me that it's
not performing.)  Sometimes, these messages go a little haywire and I
receive 30 or so notifications an hour.  If I haven't checked my eMail
in 6 hours (I must have been asleep) I find 180 emails waiting!  I want
to receive them so I know what's going on, but I sure wish there was an
easy way to select a bunch of messages and delete them all at once
rather than one by one!  Clues?

Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to reply!

Steve Eyler
Supervisor, Netware and WAN Systems
GST Telecom, Inc.

seyler@gstworld.net


From: "Tim J. Clevenger" <TClevenger@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:41:56 -0400
Subject: Pocket Quicken backup?

I want to wipe my PIC-1000 clean and start over, but I can't seem to save my
Pocket Quicken data.  Since the data doesn't seem to be stored in a package,
I can't pack it up and move it, and doing a full backup goes against what I'm
trying to accomplish.  Is there any alternative other than printing and
retyping?

Thanks.

Tim


From: "Steve Eyler Jr." <seyler@GSTIS.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:40:50 -0700
Subject: Handwriting Recognition

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From: Michael Roark <Mike-Roark@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:03:05 -0700
Subject: ML page card

For sale Magic Link Skytel page PC-Card. With original box and books.

Make offer with or without freight.

Mike Roark

Contact me at:

mike-roark@worldnet.att.net

Or at
DMR Technology Specialists Inc.
"The experts in Data, Voice and Fiber Optic Cabling"
303-238-8695


From: Dan Free <dharma@ARI.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:43:39 -0400
Subject: Re: installing bookreader

Using Eric's advice I loaded the CIA World Fact Book direct to the 1meg SRAM
card in my PIC-1000 flawlessly on the first effort.  Great simple trick to get
around the main memory bottleneck!

Now the flukey thing is that my Shakespeare sonnets no longer appears on my book
index...  anyone had similar experiences?

This bookreader app is neat...

Dan Free


From: "David Devaney, Jr." <daviddjr@SHADOW.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:39:57 -0400
Subject: Re: help

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Hi Magicappers,

Luke Derossi writes:
> The 1.0f patch corrects a variety of issues, almost
> all of them transparent to the user (memory
> management, object handling).  The most significant
> 'visible' bug it corrects is one where every 45 days
> or so, the date would get set back automatically by
> several years.

I don't remember if it was mentioned but this patch is ONLY for Sony PIC-1000
users not Envoy or 2000.

David Devaney, Jr.
daviddjr@shadow.net

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From: Alan Latteri <alatt@POBOX.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:27:02 -0000
Subject: Re: Financial Packages for MC

>There is of course another alternative.
>Get them to put Secure Server in Presto Links and we could access
>Security First Network Bank, then you could even pay bills directly
>from your MC.

I would really love to see some wireless financial/stock packages.

Alan

PS- SFNB rulez.


From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:31:49 -0400
Subject: Re: help

David Devaney, Jr. wrote:
>
> Hi Magicappers,
>
> Luke Derossi writes:
> > The 1.0f patch corrects a variety of issues, almost
> > all of them transparent to the user (memory
> > management, object handling).  The most significant
> > 'visible' bug it corrects is one where every 45 days
> > or so, the date would get set back automatically by
> > several years.
>
> I don't remember if it was mentioned but this patch is ONLY for Sony PIC-1000
> users not Envoy or 2000.
>
> David Devaney, Jr.
> daviddjr@shadow.net


  David,

  Thanks much for adding that, it slipped my mind! :)  The problems the
patch addresses are corrected in Magic Cap 1.5 (PIC-2000 and Envoy 150),
and in the Envoy Magic Cap 1.0 ROM so there's no need for the patch.


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic,Inc.


From: Forrest Girouard <forrestg@CEA.BERKELEY.EDU>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:52:20 -0700
Subject: Re: help

I requested the 1.0f patch on floppy disk from Sony so that I could
install it using magicxchange (no need for PLS or Eternity).

Cheers,
        Forrest

forrestg@cea.berkeley.edu

> From owner-magiccap@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU  Wed Sep 18 07:17:59 1996
> From: Shawn Jipp 
> Subject:      help
>
> How/where do I get the 1.0f upgrade?   I had to pull the batteries and lost
> it.
> Can it be backed up to SRAM card?
>
> Thanks.
>
> ///////Shawn Jipp
> sjipp@ix.netcom.com


From: Kevin Fries <kfries@CSN.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:02:25 -0600
Subject: Provider order

Hi Magic,
     OK, I'm getting a little tired of this game.  Every time I send a message
on my ML, it wants to send it through my office address.  Since 95% of the
messages I send should go through my personal mail box, this is annoying.  It
always lets me change it, but changing 1 message rather than 19 seems far more
convenient to me.  I'm afraid to fix it because the system works great
otherwise.  Its just irritating.  Besides, since I switched my account to
SuperNet, I get a better connection on my personal account than on the office
account. (I am beginning to understand how supernet became the 7th largest
provider in the world.)  Can someone please help?

Kevin Fries


From: Richard Brodsky <rbro@WCO.COM>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:54:42 -0700
Subject: Quoter

Dear Magic,
Can somebody Presto Mail me the Quoter package?


From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 01:01:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Several questions

Steve Eyler wrote:
> First of all, I'm already finding that I'm definitely going to want more
> memory.  I installed Presto!Links, Presto!Mail, and some of the various
> freebies from www.spies.com.  Already , I'm down to just around 200k...
> no good if I plan to file my eMail and browse the web!  Does anyone have
> a suggestion on where I can find the largest and cheapest SRAM cards?
> Can I use an SRAM card in both slots?

   Yes, you can use an SRAM card in both slots; I'm using two 1MB cards
right now as a matter of fact.  Works great!  There are many places to
locate SRAM cards, several of which have been a popular vein of
discussion on this list recently (Reboot Electronics being the latest,
at 201-457-1980).  The only caution is that Sony only supports the use
of their own brand and Epson brand cards (Sony's are actually Epson
cards to begin with), because they don't have the resources to test and
certify the large number of cards that are available.


> Also, on my INBOX rules I have specified that I want to automatically
> reformat Internet eMails.  For some reason, it's not doing it.  I have
> to click the lamp and reformat manually.  Any ideas?
>
> On web browsing: I tried browsing our corporate home page
> (www.gstcorp.com) and encountered an imagemap.  The book implies that
> imagemaps are supported, however I can't click on a button to jump to
> another URL.  Huh?

  Let me check on these two items for you.  Out of curiosity, do you
have Presto!Mail stripping internet headers from messages?

> How about development tools for Windows?  I know there's a development
> kit for the Mac, is there one in the works for Windows or OS/2?

  At this time, the Macintosh development environment (supplied with
Metrowerks CodeWarrior) is the only way to develop for Magic Cap
devices.  There is a Windows-based environment in beta right now, but
its meant to be used for package creation for Magic Cap for Windows
only.  It has been previously expressed by the MCW team that they'd like
to eventually make it compile for devices too, but no official
information has been released about if/when this is to become true.  If
you have limited access to a Macintosh, you might find it possible to
develop under Windows, and then recompile on a Mac for your
communicator.  The source code is virtually identical between the two.


> I heard talk of a bookreader?  And there's books I assume that go with
> it... where can I find info on that?

  You'll want to check out http://www.algoresearch.com for the
bookreader package, and a bunch of demo books to go with it.

> Lastly, I receive eMails from various automated systems on my network
> informing me of it's performance (I should say informing me that it's
> not performing.)  Sometimes, these messages go a little haywire and I
> receive 30 or so notifications an hour.  If I haven't checked my eMail
> in 6 hours (I must have been asleep) I find 180 emails waiting!  I want
> to receive them so I know what's going on, but I sure wish there was an
> easy way to select a bunch of messages and delete them all at once
> rather than one by one!  Clues?

  Well, you could read/move all other Emails from your in box, and then
do a 'clear' which would mass-delete all messages remaining.  There
might be a way using the Presto!Mail collection rules, too (say, switch
on the 'throw away messages from ' only when you know there's a bunch
of duplicate messages waiting).



Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.


From: Kevin Fries <kfries@CSN.NET>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:20:33 -0600
Subject: Re: Several Questions

Hi Magic,
Steve Eyler writes:
> Hi!  I'm new to this list.  My name is Steve
> Eyler and I'm a networking nerd in Vancouver,
> Washington.  I just bought a Sony Magic Link
> PIC-2000 last weekend.  I've never seen anything
> this cool!  I have used a Casio Boss for the last
> three years.  Absolutely no comparison!
> I do have several questions, however.  Perhaps
> someone who's bored might take a second to see if
> they can help??
Hi Steve, hows it going in portland.  Its been several years, but I'm sure its
as beutiful as it use to be (I saw much of it since the one way streets in downtown near the college kept me lost for what seemed like hours.)

> First of all, I'm already finding that I'm
> definitely going to want more memory.  I
> installed Presto!Links, Presto!Mail, and some of
> the various freebies from www.spies.com.  Already
> , I'm down to just around 200k... no good if I
> plan to file my eMail and browse the web!  Does
> anyone have a suggestion on where I can find the
> largest and cheapest SRAM cards? Can I use an
> SRAM card in both slots?
Several people have been using cards from a place called reboot and the prices
seem real cheap.  Real cheap always makes me nervious, so I bought my memory
cards from Sound Track(Sony 1Mb) and CompUSA(Epson 2Mb).  Name brands always
make me feel better.  As for using 2 SRAM cards at the same time, no problem.

> Also, on my INBOX rules I have specified that I
> want to automatically reformat Internet eMails.
> For some reason, it's not doing it.  I have to
> click the lamp and reformat manually.  Any ideas?
I not sure, but I do not believe that works with presto, I think it was
designed for PersonaLink.  I know mine is the same way.  Maybe it will get
updated for Presto!Mail soon.

> On web browsing: I tried browsing our corporate
> home page (www.gstcorp.com) and encountered an
> imagemap.  The book implies that imagemaps are
> supported, however I can't click on a button to
> jump to another URL.  Huh?
I do not remember reading that, but my system behaves like that also.

> How about development tools for Windows?  I know
> there's a development kit for the Mac, is there
> one in the works for Windows or OS/2?
We just got promise of development tools for windows, the stable operating
systems will have to come later.

> I heard talk of a bookreader?  And there's books
> I assume that go with it... where can I find info
> on that?
Sorry, I do not know about this one.

> Lastly, I receive eMails from various automated
> systems on my network informing me of it's
> performance (I should say informing me that it's
> not performing.)  Sometimes, these messages go a
> little haywire and I receive 30 or so
> notifications an hour.  If I haven't checked my
> eMail in 6 hours (I must have been asleep) I find
> 180 emails waiting!  I want to receive them so I
> know what's going on, but I sure wish there was
> an easy way to select a bunch of messages and
> delete them all at once rather than one by one!
> Clues?
Goto the diner, tap on what looks like a post-it note that says "messages".
This will allow you to request a mailbox summary (headers no message bodies).
From there you can check the items that you want deleted and tap the delete
button.  The summary will appear in you inbox.

HTH

Kevin Fries


From: Mike Lombrozo <Lombroma@mail.fia.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 03:10:24 -0700
Subject: Re: MCW synchronization

MCW Online wrote:
> MCW itself will not have synchonization built in to it. The Magic Cap OS
> folks working in conjustion with our hardware partners are creating a
> Data-Sync package that will operate in Magic Cap for Windows. This package
> will allow the transfer of Namecards, Notecards and Datebook ifon between a
> handheld Magic Cap device and the Windows interface. This package is due out
> shortly after MCW ships to the public.
>
> In addition there is an Import/Export package built into MCW that will allow
> the transfer of data from many of the common Personal Information Managers
> on the market (Lotus Orginizer, Sidekick95 etc.).

Joel

Will the data-sync package include notes and sticky notes attached to
namecards and datebook items?  I use this feature alot and don't want to
lose this data.

--
Mike Lombrozo
San Clemente, CA


From: "Scott Doniger From the desk of Scott Doniger..."
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 06:19:44 GMT
Subject: Re: need a PIC-1000

Does any one knows were I can buy a very cheap PIC-1000.
Used or new.
thanx
John

--
Drop me a line.. I have 2 - 1000's w/ 1mg SRAM Cards... Make offer


From: Mike Lombrozo <Lombroma@mail.fia.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:23:34 -0700
Subject: Re: ML newbie

Mark Nomady wrote:

> The one in Tustin had all the accessories, but they were in the storeroom in
> the back and you had to ask.  The clerks there are generally dumber than a
> sack of rocks.  There's a fairly new one in Foothill Ranch that had
> everything, including software, when they first opened.  But I haven't been
> there lately so I'm not sure how well they re-stocked.  Prices were pretty
> close to list.
>
> I had a PIC 1k for 3 or 4 months and became seriously dependant on it for
> e-mail.  I could sit with the family at night and hand-write my mail for the
> day w/o being tied to the computer.
>
> When the 2k came out, I waited and got a good deal off of the discussion list.
>  Though the upgades are small (backlit screen, more memory, 2 slots) they
> become significant if you use it alot.  The screen alone was worth it for me.
>
> I think the platform is imminently doomed, but so what.  I don't think you can
> always stay ahead of the technology curve, and sometimes have to be happy with
> what works for you today.  Newton is just now catching up, and MS isn't even
> close.  Let them try to cruise web pages with a cell phone.  Hah!
>
> Anyway, we should get together sometime, maybe track down others in OC.
>
Mark

This delayed response is because I just got back from vacation.  My SO
and I took a bike trip to wine country, then saw the balloon races in
Reno.  It was a great trip, but too short.

During the trip, I used the PIC to get email and it worked great.
However, the keyboard became a pain and I started to wish I had hwr
software.  Sounds like you're happy with Graffiti.  Have you tried
Scribe or QuickPrint?  It's something I might pickup since I'll probably
be writing alot of emails on the ML.

I'm going to checkout the store in Foothill Ranch, just to see what they
have in stock.  Nice to know there's a place to pick up something on
short notice.

I never owned the PIC-1k, but definitely agree that the backliting on
the 2k is great.  My wife and I each have a 2k and she uses hers quite
alot.  Couldn't get her to use a BOSS or a WIZARD, but she loves the
Magic Cap interface.

I don't know if Magic Cap will survive in the OS wars, but they'll
probably be around for a while as the PDA market matures over the next 5
years.  By then I'll probably want a smart cellphone with a flip-out
screen, VOX, and a video camera.  Till then, the PIC-2k works great for
email and web surfing.  I definitely want a faster modem, but can live
with the builtin modem for now.

I'd like to get together with others in Orange County and LA.  Any other
takers on the list?

--
Mike Lombrozo
San Clemente, CA


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