Magic Cap Users Mailing List

Thursday September 12, 1996

From: Michael Roeser <mroeser@ICELAND.IT.EARTHLINK.NET>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 23:32:40 -0700
Subject: Re: post PLS era

Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV maintainer (i.e. Paul) writes:

> Using WorldNet as provider. Has this list changed
> or is it me. My mailings from the list used to
> come in as "from"  MC Discussion List. Now each
> post comes in as "from" the individual sender.
> This makes it hard to set collection and filing
> rules. Is this normal?

That changed for me too.  Using Plink it was MC Discussion List, but now it's
listed by the actual person who sent it.  Same thing with the other mailing
lists I'm subscribed to.

> After using PrestoMail a few weeks, one thing is
> clear. I miss PLS badly. Collecting or sending
> mail at night on WorldNet is hopeless. Takes 15
> tries or more. This is not fun. I miss the rules
> too. It just seemed more reliable. It's gone and
> I'm dealing, just miss it is all.

One work-around -- and I'm not sure if this is actually legitimate --  I find
that connecting to my ISP using Links and then popping back to the inbox to collect mail (while still connected thru Links) seems to be more reliable.  Don't know if this is just an illusion, but it seems to work for me.  The main
drawback is that you have to remember to disconnect thru Links when you're
done collecting your mail.  Otherwise it just stays connected.

Good luck.  I'm hoping we'll see a lot of improvements with 2.0.

Mike
mroeser@earthlink.net

From: Nick Zimmerman <ZIMMERMA@SMTP.LMN.USACE.ARMY.MIL>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:10:51 -0500
Subject: Envoy 4 Sale *DEAL*

Great Deal!!!  $400.00

Motorola Envoy v1.0 w/ battery
Spare battery
Two - 2MB Grid memory cards
Magic Xchange (updated) for Windows
Pager & software
Original box and manuals

Contact me today, 9/12/96, and I can discuss having OS 1.5 installed and
spare power supply.

NickZ@usa.net

From: "D'Angelo, Leo" <Leo.D'Angelo@FMR.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:09:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Envoy 4 Sale *DEAL*

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Nick,

does Presto!Mail Presto!Links work with the Envoy?? Which connection
service did you use Ardis or RadioMail?? Why are you selling it?? I would
be interested in purchasing this  with the  OS Upgrade...

Let Me Know
 -LeoD


 ----------
From:  Nick Zimmerman[SMTP:ZIMMERMA@SMTP.LMN.USACE.ARMY.MIL]
Sent:  Thursday, September 12, 1996 12:10 PM
To:  Multiple recipients of list MAGICCAP
Subject:  Envoy 4 Sale *DEAL*

Great Deal!!!  $400.00

Motorola Envoy v1.0 w/ battery
Spare battery
Two - 2MB Grid memory cards
Magic Xchange (updated) for Windows
Pager & software
Original box and manuals

Contact me today, 9/12/96, and I can discuss having OS 1.5 installed and
spare power supply.

NickZ@usa.net
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From: Curt Steindler <Steindler@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:46:47 -0400
Subject: Re: post PLS era

As a VERY recent ML user, I never had the pleasure of using PLS so I don't
know what I am missing.

For myself I use AOL.  Why? Because it is easy, I was already on AOL, the ML
seems to even like AOL.

There are problems. For one thing AOL does not seem to be supporting their ML
connection. I have reported the problem with the news updates. It has been a
few weeks so far and I still have seen no improvement. Also, I would dearly
love to do that automatic namecard updating 'thang', and not being able to
sent/receive the graphics limits one of the more fun aspects of the ML.

However (and this is just a wild idea here) might it be possible to get the
coding for the program that PLS used and set up a number of ML friendly ISPs
that use the old PersonaLink package in the ML. Sure, we would have to get
something agreed to by ATT, but surely even that might be possible.  Just a
thought.

From: Curt Steindler <Steindler@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:47:01 -0400
Subject: Pocket Quicken

OK, now its personal.

One of the main reasons I wanted a ML was so I could use Pocket Quicken.
However, for some reason unknown to man or nature, Pocket Quicken was not
included on the PIC-2000.

I have called Intuit, they do not sell it directly, nor do they know how I
can get it. In other words, I can not get it for love nor money.

I do not understand this attitude. The development costs have already been
paid. Going through a company like Outfitters Direct their would not even be
any production costs. All they would have to do is rake in the money.

So, I am sending out a general beseach. I KNOW that General Magic and Sony
demigod/desse/s regularly read this list. Please help me find a way to get
this package. I will pay any (reasonable) amount of money. (Reasonable is
defined as less than the desktop application costs, lets keep some
perspective.)

If anyone has any ideas (short of going to my local Good Guys and using their
display ML to beam the Pocket Quickent package to my ML) please let me know.

Thanks,

Curt Steindler

From: Dan Free <dharma@ARI.NET>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:59:05 -0400
Subject: OUT DAMNED SPOT

Fellow Caps,

OKay, the awaited day has finally arrived, my coupon software pack has arrived,
and I've loaded Presto!Mail and Presto!Links onto my lowly PIC-1000 w/ one a one
meg SRAM card (containing ONLY the six "Presto!Packs" w/ 429k available memory).
 So far, no problem surfing the Web at 2400 glorious bps (or should I say
"Wading the Web"???).  So far, no problem retrieving my mail from my local ISP.

But when I go to send a "blank letter" type E mail for a test, even though I've
deleted all AT&T mail from all my file cabinet folders, and even though I've
deleted my old AT&T address from my name card, my Link insists on trying to send
the "blank letter" type Email via the old PLink service.  ARRRGH.  However when
I send a postcard, I'm able to change the stamp in the upper LH corner and send
via my ISP. I don't get it.  It is simply that Presto!Mail doesnt' support
sending on anything other than a post card???

Any suggestions as to what I might do to enable me to send a "blank letter"
style E-mail using Presto!Mail???

Also, although I've tried twice to put the Presto!Mail Rules onto my provider's
card as per the manual, once the Rules icon "hops" onto the card, it appears
forever lost and does not thereafter appear on the provider card.  What should I
do???

Thanks in advance to all who have been down this path before me and can
assist...

Dan Free

From: Mike Lombrozo <Lombroma@mail.fia.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:05:38 -0700
Subject: Re: Pocket Quicken

Curt Steindler wrote:
> So, I am sending out a general beseach. I KNOW that General Magic and Sony
> demigod/desse/s regularly read this list. Please help me find a way to get
> this package. I will pay any (reasonable) amount of money. (Reasonable is
> defined as less than the desktop application costs, lets keep some
> perspective.)
>
> If anyone has any ideas (short of going to my local Good Guys and using their
> display ML to beam the Pocket Quickent package to my ML) please let me know.

Curt

I also use Quicken and wanted the Smart Wallet on the PIC.  Now I use
Pencell and am quite happy.  Not as slick as Smart Wallet, but it
works.  I now have a spreadsheet app to use for other stuff like expense
tracking and price comparisons.  Are you aware that you also have to buy
Quicken Connect ($40) to get Smart Wallet to talk to Quicken?

--
Mike Lombrozo
San Clemente, CA

From: Boris Foelsch <boris@genmagic.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:24:06 GMT
Subject: Re: post PLS era

Steindler@AOL.COM (Curt Steindler) writes:

>For myself I use AOL.  Why? Because it is easy, I was already on AOL, the ML
>seems to even like AOL.

Me too, since PLS is gone and I still want to use my PIC1000 without a 2MB
SRAM card.

>There are problems. For one thing AOL does not seem to be supporting their ML
>connection. I have reported the problem with the news updates. It has been a
>few weeks so far and I still have seen no improvement. Also, I would dearly
>love to do that automatic namecard updating 'thang', and not being able to
>sent/receive the graphics limits one of the more fun aspects of the ML.

The name cards and news updates are a bummer, but given that you can have
seperate screen names and have several people share an account and that it
works well, it's a deal. Also, exchaning graphics/sounds/ink etc works fine
if you're going from a PIC on AOL to a PIC on AOL. It used to be only on
a PIC (or MCW) to the same on PLS. Also, In box rules still work. The device
is, to me, nearly as useful as always.

-Boris

From: Michael Colegate <Michael_Colegate@MAIL.SEL.SONY.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:59:23 -0400
Subject: Re: OUT DAMNED SPOT

Dan Free Wrote:


>Fellow Caps,

>Okay, the awaited day has finally arrived, my coupon software pack has arrived,
>and I've loaded Presto!Mail and Presto!Links onto my lowly PIC-1000 w/ one a
>one meg SRAM card (containing ONLY the six "Presto!Packs" w/ 429k available
>memory).So far, no problem surfing the Web at 2400 glorious bps (or should I
>say "Wading the Web"???).  So far, no problem retrieving my mail from my local
>ISP.

>But when I go to send a "blank letter" type E mail for a test, even though I've
>deleted all AT&T mail from all my file cabinet folders, and even though I've
>deleted my old AT&T address from my name card, my Link insists on trying to
>send the "blank letter" type Email via the old PLink service.  ARRRGH.  However
>when I send a postcard, I'm able to change the stamp in the upper LH corner and
>send via my ISP. I don't get it.  It is simply that Presto!Mail doesn't'
support >sending on anything other than a post card???

>Any suggestions as to what I might do to enable me to send a "blank letter"
>style E-mail using Presto!Mail???

Two things that you can do:

1) Install the Bastille package.  This wipes out all references to
PersonaLink.

2) If you are sending a letter, you can view the stamp by tapping  'address',
and then tapping 'show envelope'.  Tap on the stamp and select the method you
wish to deliver the message.  To edit the message again, tap 'address' and
'hide envelope'

Mike Colegate
Sony Magic Link Support

From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:24:00 -0400
Subject: Re: OUT DAMNED SPOT

Dan Free wrote:
>But when I go to send a "blank letter" type
>E mail for a test, even though I've
>deleted all AT&T mail from all my file cabinet
>folders, and even though I've
>deleted my old AT&T address from my name card, my
>Link insists on trying to send
>the "blank letter" type Email via the old PLink service.
>ARRRGH.  However when
>I send a postcard, I'm able to change the stamp in
>the upper LH corner and send
>via my ISP. I don't get it.  It is simply that Presto!Mail
>doesnt' support
>sending on anything other than a post card???

  Dan,

  Have you attempted to tap the 'Address' button, and then tap the 'Show
Envelope' button, you'll have the same access to the stamp which lets
you change how to send the letter.  If there are multiple persons, you
can tap each name and then the stamp to change each person's delivery
method.


>Also, although I've tried twice to put the Presto!Mail
>Rules onto my provider's
>card as per the manual, once the Rules icon "hops" onto
>the card, it appears forever lost and does not thereafter
>appear on the provider card.  What should I do???

  Hmm, my rules do the same, but if I sit at the card for a second, the
down-arrow appears and lets me scroll down the card to the rules.  Its a
bit slower to appear (the down-arrow that is) than you'd expect so try
sticking around for a few seconds.  Otherwise, try creating a new card
(you can have multiple), and place the rules icon first; then drag the
already-configured POP, SMTP, etc. stamps from the old card to the new
card (via the totebag).

  Hope this helps! :)



Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.

From: Paul Linhardt <plin@SONYSOFT.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:03:07 -0700
Subject: Re: OUT DAMNED SPOT

>But when I go to send a "blank letter" type E mail for a test, even though I've
>deleted all AT&T mail from all my file cabinet folders, and even though I've
>deleted my old AT&T address from my name card, my Link insists on trying to
>send
>the "blank letter" type Email via the old PLink service.  ARRRGH.  However when
>I send a postcard, I'm able to change the stamp in the upper LH corner and send
>via my ISP. I don't get it.  It is simply that Presto!Mail doesnt' support
>sending on anything other than a post card???
>
>Dan Free

You could try loading the Bastille patch off the General Magic web site.
It is supposed to disable PLS.  Maybe that will help.

-Paul

---------------------
Sony New Technologies
http://www.sonysoft.com
1-800-739-7337
E-mail: plin@sonysoft.com

From: Jim Hinson <JimNKar@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:31:10 -0400
Subject: Re: OUT DAMNED SPOT

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]

Dan,

I don't have Presto yet, but what happens if you tap 'Address', then 'Show
Envelope'?  Can't you change the method of sending from there?  I think you
can also enter construction mode, then perform a similar sequence on the
stationary in the drawer to make a permanent change.

Good luck,

Jim

From: Erik de Ruijter <100416.2613@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:39:47 EDT
Subject: get this cool new application!!!!!

Hi everybody,
check out following web site:

http://www.algoresearch.com

there is an icy demo to download.

erik.

From: Tony San Juan <san17@MARS.SUPERLINK.NET>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:51:34 -0400
Subject: Re: post PLS era

Curt Steindler wrote:
>
> As a VERY recent ML user, I never had the pleasure of using PLS so I don't
> know what I am missing.
>
> For myself I use AOL.  Why? Because it is easy, I was already on AOL, the ML
> seems to even like AOL.
>
> There are problems. For one thing AOL does not seem to be supporting their ML
> connection. I have reported the problem with the news updates. It has been a
> few weeks so far and I still have seen no improvement. Also, I would dearly
> love to do that automatic namecard updating 'thang', and not being able to
> sent/receive the graphics limits one of the more fun aspects of the ML.
>
> However (and this is just a wild idea here) might it be possible to get the
> coding for the program that PLS used and set up a number of ML friendly ISPs
> that use the old PersonaLink package in the ML. Sure, we would have to get
> something agreed to by ATT, but surely even that might be possible.  Just a
> thought.

I'm curious, does your magic link have some vertical lines running
down the screen if you adjust the contrast.  Thanks.

From: Wayne Sanderson <whsander@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 21:41:29 -0700
Subject: Re: Pocket Quicken

Mike Lombrozo writes:
> I also use Quicken and wanted the Smart Wallet on
> the PIC.  Now I use
> Pencell and am quite happy.  Not as slick as
> Smart Wallet, but it
> works.  I now have a spreadsheet app to use for
> other stuff like expense
> tracking and price comparisons.  Are you aware
> that you also have to buy
> Quicken Connect ($40) to get Smart Wallet to talk
> to Quicken?

Since Intuit seems to have no real interest in further involvement in the MC
version of Pocket Quicken, perhaps someone at GM could talk them into either
allowing it to be distributed as shareware, or just turning it over to GM, who
could sell it bundled with PQ Connect for a fair price. Personally, I think
the shareware approach would be better. When you register your copy and pay
the SW fee, they should give you PQ Connect free. It would be a way to move
more copies of PQ Connect, and generate profit from an existing product that
seems to have been abandoned. .

From: Lee Butler <leebu@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:12:56 -0700
Subject: Re: get this cool new application!!!!!

Erik de Ruijter writes:
> Hi everybody,
> check out following web site:
> http://www.algoresearch.com
> there is an icy demo to download.
> erik.

This is pretty cool!  You should talk with GM or ActivePaper about building a proxy server to compress html for presto!links.

Is the Windows version going to be able to generate BookReader books for MC?
A bookreader for MCW might also be cool.

Lee

From: "Mark D. Nomady" <trustno1@USA.NET>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:47:42 -0700
Subject: CujoTerm

Could someone repost the link for CujoTerm 4.0?

Can't seem to find it.

TIA.
Mark

From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 02:20:11 -0400
Subject: Re: CujoTerm

Mark D. Nomady wrote:
>
> Could someone repost the link for CujoTerm 4.0?
>
> Can't seem to find it.
>
> TIA.
> Mark


  Mark,

  You'll want to look at:
http://www.genmagic.com/Develop/MagicCap/Internet/Downloads/ for the
CujoTerm 4.0 file.


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.