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Tuesday September 10, 1996


From: "David Devaney, Jr." <daviddjr@SHADOW.NET>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:24:37 -0400
Subject: NEED FAST CASH? HERE'S HOW!

Hi Magicappers,

The following message was sent to the original poster and the last part was
sent to his provider with a copy of the original message.

David Devaney, Jr.

Message sent to poster********************

Hello Mr Madsen,

The following message along with a copy of your original post has been sent to
your Internet provider.

Postings like this are not appropriate in general and definitely not to
Mailing Lists or Newsgroups.  This is considered bad Netiquette and many
providers frown on this and sometimes even cancel accounts.  Personally I hope
this is the action taken against you.

Please refrain from future postings like this.  Thank You.

David Devaney, Jr.
daviddjr@shadow.net

Message sent to provider**********************

John Madsen, madsenj, one of your users posted the following make money scheme
to the Magic Cap mailing list.  We don't appreciate it because many of us
collect our messages with PDAs which have limited memory and messages of this
size can have bad results.  Plus it is inappropriare.  We hope you will take
the appropriate action.  Thank you for your time.

This message has been sent to admin and postmaster @TELEPORT.COM because I was
unsure of which would work.


From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV maintainer
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 06:28:04 +0000
Subject: Re: NEED FAST CASH? HERE'S HOW!

TClevenger writes:
> Fast cash, eh?  Hmm...  We have his "snail mail"
> address... should we spam
> him?
> :-)
> Tim

Naa. Instead lets send this guy every piece of documentation that we ever got
from AT&T. The perfect reply to a get-rich- quick scheme: a get-lost-quick
scheme!


From: Sean Kenny <seank@KERN.COM>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 23:34:12 -0700
Subject: Re: NEED FAST CASH? HERE'S HOW!

>Fast cash, eh?  Hmm...  We have his "snail mail" address... should we spam
>him?
>
>:-)
>
>Tim
>
>That's what I was thinking, I'm with ya...

Sean


From: Kevin Fries <kfries@ECENTRAL.COM>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:14:07 -0600
Subject: Goin' wireless

Hi Magic,
   OK, now I have a cellular phone.  I made sure it had one of those
chingaderras on the bottom to connect a computer to.  Now what do I need to
make my PIC-1000 talk over the new phone?  By the end of the year, I plan on
upgrading my PIC, so if there is a solution that is not specifically tied to
the 1000, that would be great.

TIA

Kevin Fries


From: James Hedrick <jahedrick@INFOAVE.NET>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 07:16:43 -0400
Subject: magic cap developing

Does code warrior run on the windows platform? I have found a book i can order
that comes with a lite version of cw. I just wonder if it will run on windows,
not just mac.


From: "Michael H. Phillips" <michael_phillips@USA.NET>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 07:43:09 -0400
Subject: Re: magic cap developing

>
> Does code warrior run on the windows platform? I have found a book i can order
> that comes with a lite version of cw. I just wonder if it will run on windows,
> not just mac.

Nope, just Macs. General Magic does have a Magic Cap for Windows
development kit that runs on a PC with Visual C++. But it doen't
compile for hand-held devices.

By the way, there is a developers list at MAGICDEV@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU.
You subscribe the same way you subscribed to this list, but
use 'magicdev' instead of 'magiccap.'

Regards, Mike Phillips
michael_phillips@usa.net


From: Dave Mayfield <qste@REVEALED.NET>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 07:24:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Goin' wireless

Kevin, what kind of Cellular phone did you buy? if it's not a Motorola good
luck!
Let me know what phone you have, make and model! I will help if I can. I
think I can GTE pays me big time for just this!

Call me if you like, I am in my office most days from 8am to 10am CDT
Dave

At 02:14 AM 9/10/96 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Magic,
>   OK, now I have a cellular phone.  I made sure it had one of those
>chingaderras on the bottom to connect a computer to.  Now what do I need to
>make my PIC-1000 talk over the new phone?  By the end of the year, I plan on
>upgrading my PIC, so if there is a solution that is not specifically tied to
>the 1000, that would be great.
>
>TIA
>
>Kevin Fries
>


From: Bread Mold <moldy@IME.NET>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:09:56 -0400
Subject: Magic Internet Kit available!

This message contains mail encoded for MagicCap

--magicmail

The Internet Kit sounds like a great opportunity to give PIC-1000 users *wo
thy* web access - and I mean plain text web browsing.  A plain text PPP br
wser would solve all the PIC-1000 issues:
The Teensy Memory
The Sluggish Modem
And for the people who bought their PIC-1000 at "blowout" prices, the
heapness of this browser...perhaps as free ware or shareware...would appeal
to them (or anybody) for sure.
It would probably tick Pierre off though, cause his webmail service wouldn't
get much business.  Heh.
-moldy

--magicmail
Content-Type: application/prestomail

begin 000 PrestoMail
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From: Aaron Wallace <aaron@IFACT.COM>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:54:32 -0700
Subject: Re: magic cap developing

At 07:16 AM 9/10/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Does code warrior run on the windows platform? I have found a book i can order
>that comes with a lite version of cw. I just wonder if it will run on windows,
>not just mac.

Rumor has it that a Windows version is in the works, but current versions
are Mac only...

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|  Aaron Wallace                        The Internet Factory, Inc.   |
|  aaron@ifact.com                            http://www.ifact.com   |
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From: Paul Linhardt <plin@SONYSOFT.COM>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:17:23 -0700
Subject: Re: Goin' wireless

>Hi Magic,
>   OK, now I have a cellular phone.  I made sure it had one of those
>chingaderras on the bottom to connect a computer to.  Now what do I need to
>make my PIC-1000 talk over the new phone?  By the end of the year, I plan on
>upgrading my PIC, so if there is a solution that is not specifically tied to
>the 1000, that would be great.
>
>TIA
>
>Kevin Fries

Kevin,

Our sister organization, Sony Electronics, has several web pages explaining
their wireless solution around:
        http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/Magic/wmlinkbundle.html
Quoted below:


                          Wireless Modem Link Bundle



                                 To order:
                   Call 1-800-571-SONY ext 333

                      $299.95 Suggested Retail Price



Buy the components you need to make your Magic Link communicator
wireless - software, modem card, and the appropriate cable for your
phone. (A savings of $43 compared to the price when purchased
separately.)

The Wireless Modem Link bundle consists of

       Wireless Modem Link software (SRP $49.95)
       Apex Mobile Plus data/fax modem (SRP $224.00)
       Cable of your choice (SRP $69.00)

Choose cables from among the following:

       Cable for Mitsubishi 3500, 4000, DiamondTel 20X, 22X Phones
       (PICA-CC1D)
       Cable for Motorola Micro TAC & Micro Digital Lite Phones
       (PICA-CC1M)
       Cable for Motorola Elite Phone (PICA-CC2M)
       Cable for GE/Ericsson AH-2XX, AH-3XX, CT500, CT700
       Phones (PICA-CC1E)
       Cable for Nokia 232 Phone (PICA-CC1N)
       Cable for Nokia 2120 Phone (PICA-CC2N)

Specifications and Requirements
Requires cellular phone (not included)
See descriptions of individual products for specifications



  PIC-2000 | PIC-1000 | Wireless bundle | Apex Data fax/modem card | Apex Data
  phone cables | Personal Print | Keyboard | Carrying case | Rechargeable
battery |
                           Memory card | Pager card |


                   Home | Feedback | Where | Hardware | Software | What


                Copyright 1995 Sony Electronics Inc. All Rights Reserved


---------------------
Sony New Technologies
http://www.sonysoft.com
1-800-739-7337
E-mail: plin@sonysoft.com


From: Aaron Wallace <aaron@IFACT.COM>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:36:09 -0700
Subject: Re: Goin' wireless

At 02:14 AM 9/10/96 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Magic,
>   OK, now I have a cellular phone.  I made sure it had one of those
>chingaderras on the bottom to connect a computer to.  Now what do I need to
>make my PIC-1000 talk over the new phone?  By the end of the year, I plan on
>upgrading my PIC, so if there is a solution that is not specifically tied to
>the 1000, that would be great.

For now, you need a cellular modem card that:

1) supports your phone
2) is suppored by the Sony Wireless Modem Link tool thingie

For the PIC-1000, you also need to engineer a way to fit two PCMCIA
cards into the one and only slot, since the Presto!stuff won't fit
in the internal memory.  There *are* modem/memory combo cards,
but all the ones I'm aware of use flash RAM, not SRAM.

An alternative may be to find a cellular-capable pocket modem and use that,
although getting it to work with the Wireless Modem tool may not be
possible.

If you're adventurous, you might be able to hobble something together
using the internal modem and the phone, but it'll work only when
you have a perfect cellular connection and don't cross cells :~)

Slightly off topic, it appears (at first blush) that the new
Magic Internet Kit is a set of objects that are linked into
packages, as opposed to a set of separate packages that are
interfaced from other apps.  Seems to me that ideally there
should be a package like Sony's Wireless tool that supports
more modems and can be used--and shared--by various apps.
Support for add-in modem strings would make it fairly universal.
Obviously it's possible.  Similarly, the TCP/IP stack should be
a package that's shared between packages, much like the two Presto!
things share the PPP package and settings.

Keeping things separate would make it easier to maintain software,
so you could go to GM and download the new Modem package
and voila, *all* your comm packages now work with the Fizzblazer
wireless ISDN card, as opposed to waiting for each company
to update their packages.

More importantly, on a memory-constrained device such as the MLink,
keeping packages as small as possible is important, and extracting
out common code libraries helps a lot.  There's no reason there
should be a complete TCP/IP stack or set of modem drivers in
*each* package that uses such beasts, *especially* on a PDA-type
thing.

I'm not a Magic Cap-aware developer, so there may be technical
reasons why this approach isn't feasible...





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|  Aaron Wallace                        The Internet Factory, Inc.   |
|  aaron@ifact.com                            http://www.ifact.com   |
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From: GLipori@AOL.COM
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:58:02 -0400
Subject: Untitled

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]

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From: Paul Linhardt <plin@SONYSOFT.COM>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:19:40 -0700
Subject: Re: Goin' wireless

>For the PIC-1000, you also need to engineer a way to fit two PCMCIA
>cards into the one and only slot, since the Presto!stuff won't fit
>in the internal memory.  There *are* modem/memory combo cards,
>but all the ones I'm aware of use flash RAM, not SRAM.
>|  Aaron Wallace                        The Internet Factory, Inc.   |

Oops, good point...sounds like the Wireless Modem Link Bundle might not be
be a satisfactory solution for the PIC-1000.  Anyone use it with a PIC-1000
and/or AOL?

-Paul

---------------------
Sony New Technologies
http://www.sonysoft.com
1-800-739-7337
E-mail: plin@sonysoft.com


From: Wayne Sanderson <whsander@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:36:09 -0700
Subject: Love Cujoterm 4.0!!!

I'm already loving Cujoterm 4.0! It has remedies for the minor shortcomings of
3.1, such as the serial port speed setting glitch (the type in window is
replaced by a ribbon strip choice window with most common speeds as available
choices) and the lack of the necessary settings in setup to allow PPP access
through ISPs that require passwords and other info before allowing login. I've
been getting right into Netcom using the info on my Presto!Mail provider's
page, and hit all of my regular sites and BBSs with no problems. Despite the
lack of function keys, VT100 emulation, and no control over scrolling,
Cujoterm is fun as all getout. All of this added functionality for only a 20k
increase, up now to around 75k. It is certainly more than adequate for logging
into the local free BBS via PPP and reading hatemail from the Sysop!


From: Aaron Wallace <aaron@IFACT.COM>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:55:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Goin' wireless

At 01:19 PM 9/11/96 -0700, you wrote:

>Oops, good point...sounds like the Wireless Modem Link Bundle might not be
>be a satisfactory solution for the PIC-1000.
> -Paul

Unless the original poster lives in an area serviced by the Ricochet
network.  If so, this would be faster and cheaper than a cellular
connection.  The main problem then would be how to connect the Ricochet to
the PIC, a problem for which a solution does exist, albeit an elusive
one...

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|  Aaron Wallace                        The Internet Factory, Inc.   |
|  aaron@ifact.com                            http://www.ifact.com   |
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From: James Hedrick <jahedrick@INFOAVE.NET>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:50:19 -0400
Subject: cujoterm question

I have a problem with cujoterm, both 3.1 & 4.0. I enter all the info for a modem connection, hit connect, it picks up the phone, but wont dial. Any ideas?
Jimmy


From: Mike Hall <thehalls@ELITE.NET>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:34:59 -0700
Subject: Re: NEED FAST CASH? HERE'S HOW!

In article <512a74$91r@nadine.teleport.com>, madsenj@teleport.com (John
Madsen) wrote:
<>

"Chain letters are a form of gambling, and sending them through the mail
(or delivering them in person or by computer, but mailing money to
participate) violates Title 18, United States Code, Section 1302, the
Postal Lottery Statute. Regardless of what technology is used to advance
the scheme, if the mail is used at any step along the way, it is illegal."
      - U.S. Postmaster General, 22 July 1995.
        http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm
========================================================
Wise men speak because they have something to say.
Fools speak because they have to say something.
========================================================
I'll look at yours if you'll look at mine!! Visit me at:
http://almond.elite.net/~thehalls
========================================================


From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV maintainer
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 02:04:49 +0000
Subject: Re: Anyone developing for the Magic Link?

Being a professional law enforcement type and a technology addict, I tend to
look for ways to utilize my hobby in my career field. Unfortunately for this
wish, I work the muscle end of the business in places where my ML cannot go.
On my off time I occasionally prepare and print out or fax reports to my
superiors on my ML, but for the most part it gets used for amusement: web
browsing, Klondike, and listhopping. I have not been idle, however. I have an
idea that I want to float around.
One of the biggest concerns in LE communications is, at least in regards to
information systems, data and system security. An example is the NCIC
(National Crime Information Center) which the federal gov't maintains as a
national criminal information database. Terminals on this most secure and well
guarded of intranets can be found in the offices of agencies across this
nation and the world, and I can assure you that access is well guarded and all
logons are recorded. It's pretty busy too. It handles thousands of criminal
history queries a day, replying with detailed information. It has only one
weak link. The personnel in the field who need the information the NCIC
provides do not have access to it, as the numbered terminal is back at the
office. They have to rely on others to make queries, and any info received
back is by necessity due to the above described system filtered and second
hand.
Some agencies are equiping vehicles with hardmounted laptops with private
network radio modems; Motorola markets one of the best of these. Care to
speculate on the price per unit plus setting up a gateway, training personnel,
etc?
My idea is along these lines: what if regional telescript based intranets were
set up, possibly with radiomodem support, or maybe a cheaper alternative
exists, that would allow authorized individuals in the field to log in to NCIC
and other secure intranets for instant access to vital information and other
assets, using MC communicators? Information they currently have to receive
filtered due to the insecurity of voice transmission, or have to wait until
they get back to the office to receive would be almost instantly available,
along with the ability to act on analytical insight in developing situations
by making instant followup queries.
 I know that device authentication is integral in Telescript; this coresponds
with the current numbered terminal system. They could track usage to specific
times on specific terminals. Use of passwords would authenticate the
authorized user. Encoding schemes could be used to keep any radiomodem
transmission private from scanner bugs with laptops plugged into their digital
scanners.
In short, I think that the above scheme could fly, and will be way cheaper
than the current isolated efforts that individual agencies are paying out big
bucks for, simply by using capable, commercially available equipment in a
different way. I'd like to see that equipment be MagicCap based.


From: Scott Yoshinaga <scott@HISURF.COM>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:42:06 -1000
Subject: Classic Star Trek game?

Anyone know if there is a Classic Startrek game? I love that old text
version im sure someone can make a magic-cap version of it!

just an idea...

aloha!
\\scott\\


From: Dan Winkler <heydan@TIAC.NET>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:27:06 -0400
Subject: Re: magic cap developing

>Does code warrior run on the windows platform?

You might download the Mac emulator from http://www.ardi.com/ to see if
it can run the little CodeWarrior you've got.  They have a free version
of the Mac emulator that runs for 10 minutes at a time so you can see if
your favorite software works on it.


From: "Tim J. Clevenger" <TClevenger@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:03:33 -0400
Subject: cujoterm question

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]

I had the same problem.  Make sure the phone number you're dialing includes
the area code.  It appears that cujo will only dial 10-digit phone numbers.
 (Fortunately, it's smart enough to strip off the area code you're dialing
from.)


From: Greg Satz <satz@CISCO.COM>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 23:32:29 -0700
Subject: Presto!Mail and Sprint Internet Passport

I am becoming more convinced that the problems I am experiencing with the
Sprint Internet Passport service are Presto!Mail related. MacSlip and Win95
work reliably. Presto!Mail only works one out of ten and sometimes less
often. What I think is occuring is that Presto!Mail is resolving the pop
host name and caching the resulting IP address. The Sprint service resolver
returns different pop IP addresses each time you log in based on some
security model or load sharing scheme. I called Sprint support but you
can't get to anyone who understands the network architecture let alone how
it works. Each time I define a new pop stamp on my service provider card I
can talk to the pop host. This must flush the IP address and allow me to
get another one.

To test my theory I have a call into Sprint support asking them which IP
address for the pop host I should use (there are four). If Sprint is really
changing pop host IP addresses I won't be able to hard code an IP address
at all. If someone within GM or AP can confirm/deny that Presto!Mail is
caching the pop/smtp IP addresses that would be helpful too.

The only work around is to find a way to delete the saved IP address that
Presto!Mail is so helpfully retaining. Is there a better way then resetting
a package or deleting the pop/smtp stamps?

The fact that Presto!Mail is simple to configure sure makes it difficult to
track down problems such as this. There needs to be some internal debugging
information made available. I'll bet anyone who supports Presto!Mail would
agree. The email condemning it on this list might be less.

For the record, I get the following messages when my mail retrieval attempt
fails.

Connecting to server
Checking for messages
Time out logging in to pop server pop.a001.sprintmail.com

It sure would be nice to get a fix for this so I could use the Sprint
service. I suppose I should start looking for another service provider...

Greg


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