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From: Mike Lombrozo <Lombroma@mail.fia.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:37:37 -0700
Subject: Re: ML newbie
Curt Steindler wrote: > Well, I have joined the ranks of MagicLink owners with the acquisition of a > used PIL-2000. (Thank you Mark!) > > Right now i am using QuickPrint, but I really want to get a keyboard. > However, like finding a ML in Los Angeles, getting a keyboard has proven to > be a tremendous challenge. > > I am also interested in finding inexpensive SRAM. If anyone has a source > please let me know. > > As might be expected, I am a bit put off by Sony's apparent failure to > support this platform. (Even the Sony stores here don't carry ML > accessories.) > > But I'll percevere. Anyone in LA with a ML let me > know; maybe we'll form a user's group. Curt I'm a little south in San Clemente, but am definitely interested in a user's group. We PICs need to stick together. As for SRAM cards, Try Reboot at: 201-457-1980. They were selling 1MB SRAM for $35 and 2MB for $79. Also try Surplus Technologies. I'd recommend getting the 2MB to start. Especially if you're going to use PM/PL. Try Office Depot for the keyboard. Personnally, I think Magic Cap for Windows and Xchange will take care of most of your keyboard needs. I've gotten real good at using the virtual keyboard and heard someone even uses 2 styli to imitate a 2 finger typist. -- Mike Lombrozo San Clemente, CA
From: Mike Lombrozo <Lombroma@mail.fia.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:04:26 -0700
Subject: Re: Magic Cap for Windows
Kevin Fries wrote: > I would love to hear where you get your information from. ComputerWorld as > recently as a month ago showed Win 3.x on 48% of desktops and Win 95 and Win > NT combined at 9%. These numbers were reported as part of an article > regarding Java (which to date does not run in 16 bit windows due to its > inability to multi-thread). These developers are starting to go broke and > ticked that so few people can run their apps! > > As a contract programmer, I have several clients that have all out banned Win > 95 from their systems. Since I write client/server, tcp/ip and enterprise > wide applications, these clients are not small. One of the clients that have > flat banned Win 95 is Colorado Division of Wildlife. Related divisions are looking at NT, but 95 has been banned there too. > > So please check facts. Kevin I agree that my facts may not be right for some companies or exactly agree with the media, but it is right for my company and quite a few IT managers. The point I was really trying to make was that Win95 isn't a flop and GM isn't stupid for supporting this OS. I get my information from other corporate IT managers and supervisors in the utility and construction sectors. My company has about 80% Win 31 and 10% Win95 at the present time. HOWEVER, we are moving to Win95 like most other companies. Just because we didn't move as quickly as Microsoft or the media predicted doesn't mean we're not moving at all. Note also that we've got a lockdown on Win95 via network policies to control where it's used. This insures that mission critical applications are run in the correct environment. The lockdown wasn't setup to "ban" Win95; we're openning the distribution as more software is certified for Win95. This is software we use, which isn't usually the same software the media tracks. We figure this will probably take another 12 to 18 months. I am aware of companies that have banned Win95. Note that my company has banned Macs. It doesn't mean the systems are bad, just not right for that particular company at the time. We banned Macs to keep a homogeneous operating environment. I'm sure you're also aware of the big problem of controlling the local PC configuration in large corporations. Some companies, like Arthur Anderson & Co, have their own flavor of Windows and have banned "non-standard" and personal programs from the beginning. My company, like others, didn't do this and are paying the price with increased trouble calls. Win95 gives us the first real opportunity to get the PC configuration back in control. This means lots of planning and negotiating with clients (some call it politics), which takes time. We'll only implement Win95 if everyone agrees to use a standard configuration. It's also interesting that you mentioned Java. We don't allow our programmers to use JAVA because the language is too new and immature. BUT we believe it will be an important tool in the future and will probably budget training for it in '98 or '99. By then we expect to be in a 32 bit environment and won't care about 16 bit applets. -- Mike Lombrozo San Clemente, CA
From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 03:47:54 -0400
Subject: Re: MCW 2.0 beta
OPC_office wrote: > > We registered our copies when we pulled them off the web. Also bought > the disks. So General Magic knows who has MCW 1.0 and who doesn't. It > would also be easy to look at ATTPLS and see who is using it. Paul, True, they do have a database of users who registered and/or paid for the disks, however there are people who did neither, and just as many that didn't use PersonaLink with MCW. Its my opinion that the need for prompt, controlled testing of this current version was the reasoning behind the method of distribution. Formulating an offer, sending it off, awaiting the response and finally delivering the beta to previous registered users would cut deeply in time I think the team would rather spend finishing the product. That, and the fact that if 100 users are all they needed, the quantity of registered users far outspans that meager number. Regards, Luke Derossi for General Magic, Inc.
From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 03:40:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Presto Coupon
OPC_office wrote: > > Are we going to receive PrestoMail before the death of ATTPLS or not. 9 > days left. C'mon. Why did they even bother with the coupon? Either do > it, or don't do it. No big deal. If it's not here before ATTPLS is out, > what good is it! I'll spend the $50 bucks. > > ISP providers question. > > Are there providers out there who will supply me with all the phone > numbers, etc. without doing it from a PC first? I just want to use my > Links for e-mail. Kinda the reason we bought them. I don't want to have > to set up a PC for each account. > > Paul McHugh Paul, Its common for standard Internet Service Providers that supply PPP accounts to get you fully operational without the need for PC or Mac initialization; in fact, except for a few of the larger guys, I'd have to say that the majority of ISPs I've seen would require only that you call them voice to arrange payment, name, password and to obtain the required fields for Internet Setup on the device (ip#, mail ip, login and password), and you'd be set to go on a communicator equipped with Presto!Mail1.5/Links1.0. Its not a requirement to go either way of course and is the descretion of each ISP how they sign on new users. It would be best to give potential ISPs a call and find out how they do their new accounts. Regards, Luke Derossi for General Magic, Inc.
From: Petr Vyhnak <pvyhnak@ATTBCS.ANET.CZ>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:53:20 +0200
Subject: MCW 2.0 Beta
So I have finally installed Win 95 and MCW Beta just after it was announced on the mailing list. I would like to ask a few questions: 1. How do I get updates ? (they were mentioned in the message). 2. The new MCW works just with Win95. So why I need to reenter such parameters like time zone and phone/modem setup - Win95 already has this information. I also miss the country book that is in MC 1.5 3. I had tried MAPI mail with both inetmail and MS Mail. When is asks me what MAPI SP I'd like to collect from I have 3 times Internet Mail and 3 times MS Mail. Is it a bug ? 4. I have the Magic Developer for Windows and VC++ 4.0. Can I use the packages developed with it or do I need an update ? (If I need it how to get the update?) If I find any other problems/issues with MCW I'll inform you. Thank you in advance. Petr Vyhnak
From: Charles Ashley <charlesa@netventures.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:44:44 +0100
Subject: mail rules
Hi all - I've been trying to get PrestoMail 1.5 to collect mail only from one email address and not collect all the rest. I thought the Mail Rules would permit this, but there doesn't seem to be anything like "collect mail only from foo". Am I on the wrong track? Thx, C. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Ashley charlesa@netventures.co.uk www.netventures.co.uk ======================================================================
From: OPC_office <A5043644623@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 12:53:07 +0000
Subject: Re: Presto Coupon
Luke Derossi wrote... >>>>Its common for standard >>>Internet Service Providers that supply PPP accounts to get you fully operational without the need for PC or Mac initialization; in fact, except for a few of the larger guys, I'd have to say that the majority of ISPs I've seen would require only that you call them voice to arrange payment, name, password and to obtain the required fields for Internet Setup on the device (ip#, mail ip, login and password), and you'd be set to go on a communicator equipped with Presto!Mail1.5/Links1.0. Its not a requirement to go either way of course and is the descretion of each ISP how they sign on new users. It would be best to give potential ISPs a call and find out how they do their new accounts. Regards, Luke Derossi for General Magic, Inc.>>>> Thank you for the answer. Haven't called any ISP's yet. Waiting for PrestoMail to arrive. It will make life much easier if that is the case. Thanks again. Regards, Paul McHugh --- NOTICE: This message originally included graphics and/or sounds which can only be received by AT&T PersonaLink(sm) subscribers. You received only the text portion(s) of the message. Please contact the sender for information that was deleted. To learn how to send and receive graphics, voice and text messages via AT&T PersonaLink Services, call 1-800-936-LINK.
From: OPC_office <A5043644623@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 12:53:02 +0000
Subject: Re: MCW 2.0 beta
Luke Derossi wrote: >>>>>True, they do have a database of users who registered and/or paid for the disks, however there are people who did neither, and just as many that didn't use PersonaLink with MCW. Its my opinion that the need for prompt, controlled testing of this current version was the reasoning behind the method of distribution. Formulating an offer, sending it off, awaiting the response and finally delivering the beta to previous registered users would cut deeply in time I think the team would rather spend finishing the product. That, and the fact that if 100 users are all they needed, the quantity of registered users far outspans that meager number.>>>> You're right. If ATTPLS was still around, I wouldn't have cared at all. Then we could have just continued to use MCW 1.0. Probably just sour grapes on my part. It just would have been a nice fit for us. I'm sure you recognize this, but it is worth repeating. Magic Cap is a great communication platform. We starting using it as soon as it came out. I would not spend 2 seconds addressing this list if I didn't feel that way. I'm certain most people who watch this list feel the same. When you're in something for the long haul, you have more at stake. When you have more a stake, you tend to be more vocal. Your presence on this list is greatly appreciated. Paul McHugh
From: Dana Moore <Dana.Moore@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:51:32 -0400
Subject: Re: MAGICCAP Digest - 20 Aug 1996 to 21 Aug 1996
At 04:00 AM 8/22/96 +0000, Steve Schramm writes:
>On another front, I saw some recent comments about our PIC<->MCW
>synchronization package on which we're also working and plan to deliver this
>year.
As a PIC2000 user, I think this is very exciting indeed; if delivered as
described, single button sync of telecards and dates certainly will give me
a compelling reason to have MCW open on my wintel desktop, and will give us
even greater flexibility in using MagicCap.
...now if we could just get a global internet calendar protocol, we could
create agents on MagicCap platforms to grab dates of interest from the web,
and ... hmmm, this is beginning to sound like a product idea!
regards,
("`-/")_.-'"``-._ Dana Moore
. . `; -._ )-;-,_`) Magic Carpet Rider
(v_,)' _ )`-.\ ``-' voice: 301.369.7716
_.- _..-_/ / ((.' Dana.Moore@worldnet.att.net
((,.-' ((,/
From: "R. Golden" <baye1@MAIL.IDT.NET>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:22:36 +0100
Subject: A SILLY QUESTION ABOUT BASTILLE PATCH
Okay, I understand that Bastille will make the AT&T building disappear. However what are the memory implications? will making the AT&T building disappear increase my main memory? my feeling is that if zapping the building does not make my ML run faster, jump higher or manage memory better, I will just let the building remain in place, discard my ATTPLS user info and not become sentimental about the relationship when I pass by the building. Thanks in advance for the info... Ron
From: Paul Czarnecki <pZ@CUSTOMLINE.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:50:16 -0400
Subject: Re: MCW 2.0 beta
>I'm sure you recognize this, but it is worth repeating. Magic Cap is a >great communication platform. We starting using it as soon as it came >out. I would not spend 2 seconds addressing this list if I didn't feel >that way. I'm certain most people who watch this list feel the same. Just to play Devil's Advocate, I'd like to halfway disagree. I have never used my PIC to send/recieve email or faxes or surf the web. However, I find it indepensible as a data organizer. Aside from the mail, I don't think there is a feature I have not used, and many of them I use all the time; rolodex, calendar, spreadsheet, notepad, clock, and I just love the filing cabinit, I have so much crap filed away there. I think it is far superior to the Newton (but I will admit that Newton 2.0's handwriting recognition is better for data entry). Now why don't I communicate with it? Well frankly its because of the screen. You see, I have a PIC-1000. I'm not saying it isn't a great comm device, but not all users treat it as such. pZ -- Paul Czarnecki Take a break
From: Leo A DAngelo <lad@WORLD.STD.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 12:01:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Magic Cap for Windows 2.0 beta 1
Hello, I would like to apply for the Beta program of MCW. I am interested in MCW for personal and corporate reasons. If you wish to reach me I can be reached at: Work: (617) 563-3279 Email: lad@world.std.com
From: "Dennis D. Giguere" <giguere@LR.NET>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 13:36:05 -0300
Subject: Magic Cap Programmer's Cookbook for sale
I have a copy of "Magic Cap Programmer's Cookbook" with CD ROM by Barry Boone for sale for $25 (list price: $39.75). The book is new, the project was cancelled! Thanks, Dennis giguere@lr.net
From: John Beechler <A5023644604@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 21:37:59 +0000
Subject: mail rules
Dear Magic, Charles Ashley writes: I've been trying to get PrestoMail 1.5 to collect mail only from one email address and not collect all the rest. From the desk scene option tap the in-box. Select ISP you want then tap connect. John in Vegas --- NOTICE: This message originally included graphics and/or sounds which can only be received by AT&T PersonaLink(sm) subscribers. You received only the text portion(s) of the message. Please contact the sender for information that was deleted. To learn how to send and receive graphics, voice and text messages via AT&T PersonaLink Services, call 1-800-936-LINK.
From: Sean Kenny <seank@KERN.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:00:25 -0700
Subject:
I recently went to America Online to handle my e-mail since the AT@T will
be leaving us soon. I'm having a difficult time with my new account now, it
worked fine the first day and now it won't dial into their phoneline and
says, "invalid account". I talked to AOL techs. who didn't have an answer. A
Sony tech. told me there is a "bug" in the new AOL software and they are
working at the Sony end to upgrade it. Has anyone else had this problem? Is
Presto mail the answer? I have a pic-1000 and simply want to send and
receive e-mail, nothing fancy.
The AOL news story reader does not work with the ML as advertised
either, even when I was logged on with AOL. AOL techs said they were working
on that too. Needless to say, I canceled my trail AOL account. Hopefully
this will help anyone thinking of going to AOL in light of the ATTPLS
termination, if I can save just one ML user, then... Have a good week
everyone!
From: Charles Ashley <charlesa@NETVENTURES.CO.UK>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 00:06:40 GMT
Subject: Re: mail rules
>Charles Ashley writes: >I've been trying to get PrestoMail 1.5 to collect mail only from = one >email address and not collect all the rest. >>=46rom the desk scene option tap the in-box. Select ISP you want = then tap >connect. Sorry all, let me re-phrase. It's not an issue of collecting = mail from only one account, it's collecting mail within one = account. What I'm trying to do is collect mail from only one = email sender. So, for example, I want to collect mail only from = Farcast and not any other senders (I'll get those in my PC mail = anyway). With PrestoMail 1.5, I know I can request a messages = summary in the Diner, but I have to keep reconnecting to get the = chosen mail which is so slooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww. I'd like to = set a rule so that when I grab mail, it only collects from one = sender and ignores the rest., but I can't seem to find a rule = which lets me do this.=20 Is Magic Cap able to filter in this way? Thx again, C.=
From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:28:35 -0400
Subject: Re: MCW 2.0 beta
OPC_office wrote: > > Luke Derossi wrote: > > >>>>>True, they do have a database of users who registered and/or paid > for the disks, however there are people who did neither, and just as > many that didn't use PersonaLink with MCW. Its my opinion that the > need for prompt, controlled testing of this current version was the > reasoning behind the method of distribution. Formulating an offer, > sending it off, awaiting the response and finally delivering the beta > to previous registered users would cut deeply in time I think the team > would rather spend finishing the product. That, and the fact that if > 100 users are all they needed, the quantity of registered users far > outspans that meager number.>>>> > > You're right. If ATTPLS was still around, I wouldn't have cared at all. > Then we could have just continued to use MCW 1.0. Probably just sour > grapes on my part. It just would have been a nice fit for us. > > I'm sure you recognize this, but it is worth repeating. Magic Cap is a > great communication platform. We starting using it as soon as it came > out. I would not spend 2 seconds addressing this list if I didn't feel > that way. I'm certain most people who watch this list feel the same. > > When you're in something for the long haul, you have more at stake. > When you have more a stake, you tend to be more vocal. > > Your presence on this list is greatly appreciated. > > Paul McHugh Paul, Actually I wouldn't want it any other way. As Steve Schramm has noted previously, the fact that you care enough about the platform to voice your opinions and concerns means a lot to us, and we don't want to discourage that in any way, shape or form! :) And thanks for the kind words as well. Regards, Luke Derossi for General Magic, Inc.
From: Mike Lombrozo <Lombroma@mail.fia.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:57:14 -0700
Subject: Re: Magic Cap for Windows
MCW Online wrote: > We are delivering Magic Cap on Windows 95 first because Windows 95 itself > provides vastly improved environment support via MAPI and TAPI. These solve > major customer complaints in the area of connectivity to standard mail > systems, internet service providers, support for most modems, and connectivity > to Microsoft Exchange. These features are specifically requested by our target > market, which is the Small Office and Home Office market. We are considering a > Windows 3.1 version, but it will be less powerful because Microsoft does not > provide as rich an environment. Magic Cap for Macintosh and Magic Cap for > Windows 3.1 are on hold pending the completion and market acceptance of this > first product. If it is received well, we will pursue other versions. > > On another front, I saw some recent comments about our PIC<->MCW > synchronization package on which we're also working and plan to deliver this > year. This is different from IntelliLink and is designed to be a quick > synchronization of the Name Cards (a.k.a. Rolodex(tm)) and Date Book. These > are the two items customers told us were most important to synchronize in the > first version, and we wanted to keep the synch simple and as fast as possible. > > IntelliLink's product will still provide a more comprehensive version of > PIC<->MCW connectivity. I was hoping the one-button sync with the ML would include everything. This should include notepad pages, the filing cabinet, and inbox mail. Will the name cards and date book import/export include notes and sticky notes? These are very important to me. Also, will the import/export feature include a MCW system? This will allow me to sync MCW files on different computers on a network. -- Mike Lombrozo San Clemente, CA
From: Wayne Sanderson <whsander@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 22:25:39 -0700
Subject: A SILLY QUESTION ABOUT BASTILLE PATCH
My experience with Bastille was brief, as I early decided to do without it as well. The before and after numbers on the main memory counter in the storeroom indicated a difference of 11k, but with the PIC1000s memory quirks this number may not be terribly reliable.
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