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Tuesday August 20, 1996


From: "Shawn Jipp Sr. Applications Engineer" <sjipp@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:06:46 -0700
Subject: BAMCUG#3 Guest Speaker

Our very own Mark Perreira will be demonstrating his homemade cable that
allows the Magic Port to be connected to either a Ricochet wireless modem or
an external landline standard modem (both situations also require the Sony
Wireless software for $49).  The modified Magic Exchange cable can also then
be used once again as a standard Magic Exchange cable.  (This is surely a
major accomplishment as both General Magic and Ricochet have been unable to
procure/fabricate/kludge such a cable for the last 3+ months!)

By the end of the meeting we hope to have some preliminary thruput
comparisons of the Ricochet, Internal 14.4, external 14.4 and 28.8 external
modems.

Once again the meeting will be at 7:00 PM this Thursday at General Magic in
Sunnyvale, CA.

Re posting of this message is encouraged for AOL, Compuserve, newsgroups,
BBS's, etc.  Feel free.

See you there!
///////Shawn Jipp
Personal Email=sjipp@ix.netcom.com
Work Email=apps@nanometrics.com
Home=(408)736-5477


From: "Shawn Jipp Sr. Applications Engineer" <sjipp@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:16:38 -0700
Subject: flaming names

I also would like to ask Scott to tone it down a bit. Personal barbs on
names should not be tolerated (I should know...just look at my last name!).
///////Shawn Jipp
Personal Email=sjipp@ix.netcom.com
Work Email=apps@nanometrics.com
Home=(408)736-5477


From: "Shawn Jipp Sr. Applications Engineer" <sjipp@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:24:15 -0700
Subject: Three questions

Stupid #1:

This may be a stupid question but what does this new alarm clock software
do?  Why is it better than just setting my ML to alarm at a specific time in
the morning via the calendar book/scheduler?  I must be missing something
here...

Stupid question of the day#2:

When I retrieve msgs from this mail list with my Magic Link using
PrestoMail! I never see any 'Magic' enhanced stuff in the messages.  Is this
normal?  Does no one include such things in their posts?

Last question(not so stupid):

Has anyone subscribed to Earthlink as their ISP?  If so, how does it work
with PrestoLinks?
///////Shawn Jipp
Personal Email=sjipp@ix.netcom.com
Work Email=apps@nanometrics.com
Home=(408)736-5477


From: Mike Lombrozo <Lombroma@mail.fia.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:26:39 -0700
Subject: Re: Magic Cap for Windows 2.0 beta 1

Scott Doniger wrote:
>
> Dear Magic,
> I cant beleive the are doing MCW ONLY for 95.  95 has been such a flop in corp
> america...  Now NT poss.....    Corp america refuses to go to 95..    Just
> another nail in the coffin of GM...
>
> Schramm or Scam.....            From the desk of Scott Doniger...

Scott

FYI, Corporate america is very interested in Win95.  I work for a
Fortune 500 company and network with other corporate ITs.  The holdup on
moving to Win95 is based on driver support from 3rd party vendors, not
Win95 itself.  Novell's 32 bit drivers are still in beta and
WordPerfect, the standard in many companies, just came out with their
Win95 version in June.  We also have some mainframe apps and specialized
printers that still don't have Win95 drivers.

Most corporations are going to move to Win95 because of better memory
management and a more reliable OS.  Note that this is based on our
internal tests, not marketing or media hype.  While it's not perfect by
a long shot, it's good enough for business as evidenced by the number of
workers that want to use it.  We're also planning on moving to NT and
realize that Win95 is an interim step that will get users used to the NT
interface.  Since it's an interim step, we're not writing many custom
drivers and are waiting for vendors to supply the upgrades under their
maintenance contracts.

I think GM is very smart to concentrate their resources on Win95.  They
won't be hurt by the few whiners like you that are out of the mainstream
and can't see the big picture.

--
Mike Lombrozo
San Clemente, CA


From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 06:49:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Three Questions

Shawn Jipp writes:
>This may be a stupid question but what does this new alarm clock
>software do?  Why is it better than just setting my ML to alarm at a
>specific time in the morning via the calendar book/scheduler?
>I must be missing something here...

  Check out http://www.tradingtech.com/~people/mphillips/magic.html for
a nice screen shot and description of the TravelClock.  Its a very
clever package!  It displays the time with nearly full-screen digits
(you're supposed to plug it in and tell your link not to turn off when
connected to power), and as you know has an alarm and more recently a
snooze feature.  Very slick indeed!


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.


From: "Dennis D. Giguere" <giguere@LR.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 08:30:47 -0300
Subject: Please remove me from the Magic Cap Discussion List.

Please remove me from the Magic Cap Discussion List.

Dennis Giguere
giguere@lr.net


From: Dave Courvoisier <COURVO@AOL.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:34:49 -0400
Subject: coupla dumb questions

Greetings from Las Vegas,

   'Two weeks, now,  into ownership of my new PIC-2000.  I've read most of
the FAQ's, visited all the web sites I could find, joined this list, poured
over my manual, looked at the help files, signed on with AOL, shared your
frustration with the loss of AT&T, and still I'm without answers on a couple
of things.

   What the heck are coupons?  Is there a synonymous word in the world of DOS
or Windows that would help explain, or could someone please tell me what they
are and what they do?

   Also, would appreciate a word from the wealth of your experience as to
what most of you are going to as an internet link (other than AOL) to replace
AT&T, that is proving to be reliable and friendly.

   Finally, now that AT&T is vamoose, is there a way to clear it out of
memory and make more space....get it off Downtown?


Thanks in advance for your patience with this new user
Dave Courvoisier
Courvo@aol.com
dcourvo@kvbc.com
http://www.kvbc.com/kvbc/personal_daves.htm
(702) 657-3156


From: Roderick Sprattling <A5833644656@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:46:39 +0000
Subject:

Dear MAGICCAP List,

Several requests:

Would someone please send a copy of Tinker Tool to me at either
A5833644656@attpls.net or, on AOL, Sprattling?

Where is the best (read: least expensive) place to get MagicXchange and
a Magic Link cable?

Anyone have a pin-out for the Magic Port they can share with me?

Thank you very much.

Rod


From: Petr Vyhnak <pvyhnak@ATTBCS.ANET.CZ>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 17:56:37 +0200
Subject: Re: Magic Port

>Anyone have a pin-out for the Magic Port they can share with me?
>

This is probably a deep secret (I have no idea why). I wish you good luck
getting this information ! (I have not succeeded in getting this piece of
information).

Petr


From: Richard Brown <A5403644662@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 16:18:28 +0000
Subject: Tinker Tool ?

Could someone please send me the tinker tool , at your leisure.

Thanks for your time
Richard





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From: "Lily N. Koessel" <lily@KOESSEL.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:56:12 +0000
Subject: Re: coupla dumb questions

Dave Courvoisier writes:
> Greetings from Las Vegas,
>
>    'Two weeks, now,  into ownership of my new PIC-2000.  I've read most of
> the FAQ's, visited all the web sites I could find, joined this list, poured
> over my manual, looked at the help files, signed on with AOL, shared your
> frustration with the loss of AT&T, and still I'm without answers on a couple
> of things.
>
>    What the heck are coupons?  Is there a synonymous word in the world of DOS
> or Windows that would help explain, or could someone please tell me what they
> are and what they do?

"Coupons hold attributes that you can apply to viewable objects."
like relabel a door, or change a font...

_Magic Cap Complete_, Addison-Wesley Pulishing, by General Magic,
Inc.  Get this book to answer this and many other questions.  Has a
lot of things you probaly won't find/know about without someone
specifically telling you...

Also, a good starter book is _Presenting Magic Cap_, Addison-Wesley,
Barbara Knaster...

>
>    Also, would appreciate a word from the wealth of your experience as to
> what most of you are going to as an internet link (other than AOL) to replace
> AT&T, that is proving to be reliable and friendly.

I am using dial-in service from my ISDN provider, and wireless
service with a Ricochet modem by Metricom. The Ricochet has been fun!

>
>    Finally, now that AT&T is vamoose, is there a way to clear it out of
> memory and make more space....get it off Downtown?

Get the Bastille patch on General Magic's web site.



Lily Koessel
lily@koessel.com


From: Lee Butler <leebu@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 12:50:39 -0700
Subject: Re: Three questions

Shawn Jipp Sr. Applications Engineer writes:
> Has anyone subscribed to Earthlink as their ISP?  If so, how
> does it work with PrestoLinks?

I tried Earthlink for a month but I saw over an 80% call failure rate.  This
was with a pic and win95.  When I did get connected everything worked great.

I'm using Netcom now with good results except occasional busy signals.

Thanks,
Lee Butler
Consultant
leebu@ix.netcom.com
Phone:303.843.1738          Pager:800.480.9079


From: Scott Wood <swood@WWNET.COM>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 19:04:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Magic Cap for Windows 2.0 beta 1

Mike Lombrozo wrote:
>
> Scott Doniger wrote:
> >
> > Dear Magic,
> > I cant beleive the are doing MCW ONLY for 95.  95 has been such a flop in corp
> > america...  Now NT poss.....    Corp america refuses to go to 95..    Just
> > another nail in the coffin of GM...
> >
> > Schramm or Scam.....            From the desk of Scott Doniger...
>
> Scott
>
> FYI, Corporate america is very interested in Win95.  I work for a
> Fortune 500 company and network with other corporate ITs.  The holdup on
> moving to Win95 is based on driver support from 3rd party vendors, not
> Win95 itself.  Novell's 32 bit drivers are still in beta and
> WordPerfect, the standard in many companies, just came out with their
> Win95 version in June.  We also have some mainframe apps and specialized
> printers that still don't have Win95 drivers.
>
> Most corporations are going to move to Win95 because of better memory
> management and a more reliable OS.  Note that this is based on our
> internal tests, not marketing or media hype.  While it's not perfect by
> a long shot, it's good enough for business as evidenced by the number of
> workers that want to use it.  We're also planning on moving to NT and
> realize that Win95 is an interim step that will get users used to the NT
> interface.  Since it's an interim step, we're not writing many custom
> drivers and are waiting for vendors to supply the upgrades under their
> maintenance contracts.
>
> I think GM is very smart to concentrate their resources on Win95.  They
> won't be hurt by the few whiners like you that are out of the mainstream
> and can't see the big picture.
>
> --
> Mike Lombrozo
> San Clemente, CA

Well said!!

I also work for a fortune 500 company that is planning on using this
also.  I use Win 95 at home and like it a lot!  It is not perfect but it
is much better than 3.1.

Scott Wood


From: "Mark D. Nomady" <trustno1@USA.NET>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 17:46:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Three questions

I have Earthlink and am usually able to connect off-hours to both ppp and
smtp without any problems.  Our node here gets alot of use, so during busy
times I occasionally see errors and seem to be the first to get kicked off.
 Still it was better than Netcom.

Other than that, no problems...

Mark

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> From: Shawn Jipp Sr. Applications Engineer 
> stuff deleted<
>
> Last question(not so stupid):
>
> Has anyone subscribed to Earthlink as their ISP?  If so, how does it work
> with PrestoLinks?
> ///////Shawn Jipp
> Personal Email=sjipp@ix.netcom.com
> Work Email=apps@nanometrics.com
> Home=(408)736-5477


From: Johnny Culver <A5133644645@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 03:10:44 +0000
Subject: Stationary

Dear Magic,
Aren't we all awaiting prestomail.




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From: Dave Courvoisier <COURVO@AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 00:45:35 -0400
Subject: Re: coupla dumb questions

Lily,


   Thankyou for your timely and informative response.  It helped a lot.

Regards,

Dave Courvoisier


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