Magic Cap Users Mailing List

Saturday July 20, 1996

From: Shawn Jipp <sjipp@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:29:25 -0700
Subject: Misc Answers

A few answers to previous questions:

1)  Presto Links/Mail will not fit into a PIC-1000 without at least a 1 meg
SRAM card.  I highly recommend you spend a bit extra and get a 2 meg card.
You will be happy that you did!

2)  Other SRAM cards known to work fine include, but are not limited to:  Apple, Epson, and Grid (I have a Grid 2 meg myself).

3)  I have chosen Netcom as my Internet service provider (ISP) as I travel
quite a lot and needed a provider that had many local access numbers.  They
have numbers in MANY cities such as Phoenix, San Diego, Austin, Boston,
Chicago, AND they have an 800 access number which costs only 8 cents/minute
which they claim is at their cost.  Netcom has over 400,000 subscribers.

4)  Earth.net is not an ISP but sets up a pseudo address for you so you don't
have to keep sending out msgs to your acquaintances telling them of your
latest new email address.  Your address at Earth.net can be linked to your
real address or addresses.

Lastly, note my new email address below.  Alas, I will miss that free 800
number at PLINK.  Oh well....

///////Shawn Jipp
sjipp@ix.netcom.com

From: Kevin Fries <A5783644665@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:06:05 +0000
Subject: Re: Death of PLS

Paul McHugh writes:
> What happens now to MCW. It was totally built
> around PLS. Is it finished too. Will the new
> version be out before PLS closes its doors? I
> have several Links, Envoys, SkyTel pagers and
> systems running MCW. We invested a lot of money
> into the Magic Cap platform. Now all these
> devices no longer can do what they did when we
> bought them. I am sure PrestoMail is a great
> product. It seems that it will fill most people's
> needs. I never understood Telescript or cared if
> the MarketSquare ever appeared, but the features
> of PLS email is what sold me on the unit. Just
> look at the box and manuals for these products.
> PLS was the cornerstone. Now they decide they are
> out. I feel like they are asking us to saw the
> units in half and mail half back. I know ATT is
> not a charity, but it is more complicated than
> that. They are part of the GM alliance. We will
> find alternate solutions. It just seems that GM
> is getting off the hook a little too easy.

Hi Paul,
     No-one was more skeptical than I was.  But after some homework, I
have come to look forward to this move.  One of the best new
opportunities will be extended to people such as yourself.  It seems to
me that anyone who has bitten into the MC platform as much as you have,
may want to consider hanging an intranet.  That way you could have the
best of both worlds, collaboration, web, and magic mail.  I am now a
contractor to the state of Colorado.  I wish I could get them hooked up
like that.  I actually envy you, that sounds like a great opportunity.
Has anyone attempted to push the presto products through a firewall?

Kevin Fries

From: Kevin Fries <A5783644665@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:06:22 +0000
Subject: MCW: MAPI Support

Joel Connors writes:
> We are instead creating a complete ISP client
> using Microsoft's MAPI standards. The client will
> allow you to connect to any existing provider via
> modem or direct internet connection.

Hi Joel:
     I am confused, how is microsoft mail going to help me to access
the web.  What I would be interested in is probably, winsock support.
Could you please elaborate.

Thanks
Kevin Fries

From: Kevin Fries <A5783644665@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 06:06:48 +0000
Subject:

Magic Cap Discussion List writes:
> Please tell me about mailzone.com. $10.00 setup
> and free thereafter? Is this an ISP or a
> supplemental e-mail address registry/forwarding
> scheme like usa.net appears to be?
Hi all,
     no this is like usa.net.  I was looking arround the usa.net site
and saw something about first month free.  To me that suggested ongoing
costs.  I figured a one time $10 fee was fine.  As a matter of fact
until my P!M shows up I have mailzone.com pointed at PLS.  So far not a
problem.  I have already moved the MC Discussion group to this address,
so any mail from this group is going to PLS via mailzone.  When I get
P!M, I will push the switch to the other position and presto, I will be
getting mail from the internet and no one will be the wiser.  I should
have P!M here next week, that should give me a month to clean up stray
items going to PLS.

HTH
Kevin Fries

From: Steve Cooley <Stevec@POBOX.COM>
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:22:43 +0000
Subject: Re: PLS

>  me on the unit.
> Just look at the box and manuals for these products. PLS was the
> cornerstone. Now they decide they are out. I feel like they are asking
> us to saw the units in half and mail half back.

yo, I totally agree with you.  PLS was SO easy..  it kinda fit the
whole ease of use angle.  I do NOT want to have to figure out
anything that I already had set up just right.  And now I don't know
if I wanna even use my 1000...  I've been carrying around a newton
110 and my ML1k in my backpack, one for email, the other for notes
and phone numbers..  but now I'm kinda feeling like my backpack's
going to be lighter..

From: Scott Doniger <A5603644614@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 23:53:49 +0000
Subject: ISP Help?

Dear Comp.os.magic-cap and Magic,
Anyone have any advice on National ISP's?

I have tried to local guys,  but PrestoMail wont work with them...
Someone mentioned Netcom ....  The avg rates here are $20.00 for
unliited access..

Thanx
Scott
--------------------------
            From the desk of Scott Doniger...

From: "Nancy J. Webb" <nwebb@TIAC.NET>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:48:47 -0400
Subject: Re: ISP Help?

At 23:53 7/20/96 +0000, you wrote:
>Dear Comp.os.magic-cap and Magic,
>Anyone have any advice on National ISP's?

Scott (et. al.) -

If you have Web access, try http://www.thelist.com.  There you can get
listings of ISPs by area code, etc.

Good luck!
- Nancy

From: Jim Hinson <JimNKar@AOL.COM>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 21:58:51 -0400
Subject: Storage Help

[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]

How do I tell Magic Cap where to store each type of new item?

I've heard rumors that when you check 'New Items Go Here' on an SRAM Card,
you can tell it to put new name cards in one package, new notebook pages in
another, new datebook items in another, etc.

How?


Thanks,


JimH

From: Wayne Sanderson <A5023644635@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 04:21:59 +0000
Subject: Re: Storage Help

>I've heard rumors that when you check 'New Items Go >Here' on an SRAM
Card, you can tell it to put new name >cards in one package, new
notebook pages in another, new >datebook items in another, etc.

>How?

You cannot do that on the PIC1000, per say. The main memory sorts
automatically in the manner you describe above. All new stuff on the
SRAM card, however, goes in a 'new items' package which you must
occasionally edit to keep the size below 100k, which has proven through
use to be the critical mass package wise, beyond which the 1000 acts
more and more bizarre, finally ending in a terminal cleanup. You can
manually sort and file piece by piece, and you can do it faster using a
freeware package called Onno's Tools. This is only for packages
containing many individual documents- software such as Presto!Mail and
other apps that mass over 100k apparently don't count under the 100k
rule. I am not sure about the 2000, except that it is not sensitive to
the package size like the 1000.

From: Luke Derossi <lderossi@COMCAT.COM>
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 00:22:23 -0400
Subject: Re: Storage Help

Jim Hinson wrote:
>
> [This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
> America Online.]
>
> How do I tell Magic Cap where to store each type of new item?
>
> I've heard rumors that when you check 'New Items Go Here' on an SRAM Card,
> you can tell it to put new name cards in one package, new notebook pages in
> another, new datebook items in another, etc.
>
> How?
>
> Thanks,
>
> JimH



  Jim,

  To my knowledge this is not possible; as soon as you check off the
'New Items Go Here' you sacrifice the nice package-splitting that
happens in main memory, and everything goes, as you already know, into
one package initially called 'New Items.'  Its popular practice to
routinely file all of a particular item (name cards for instance) into
its own package to keep the 'New Items' package from reaching
astronomical sizes.  Its a good idea to keep the New Items package below
150K or so for optimal performance.


Regards,

Luke Derossi
 for
  General Magic, Inc.

From: Shawn Jipp <A5193644654@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 05:48:05 +0000
Subject: MCW UPGRADE

I received a mailing from General Magic (Steve Schramm) addressed to
beta MCW users.

Since PLINK is going down they will upgrade us to the final release of
MCW for *free* when it comes out in the September/October time frame.

I thought this was very generous of them since we had only spent $15
for it in the first place.

///////Shawn Jipp
sjipp@ix.netcom.com