From: John Beechler <A5023644604@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:43:35 +0000
Subject: how to webmail
>>John Culver writes:
Ok so i have the webmail.
How to i subscribe to the service. I have all their messages in my in
box,
too.
Read the message Getting Started with WebMail 7/5/95
JB
From: Bruce Tong <zztong@MAIL.EV.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:43:37 -0500
Subject: Re: it's 3 a.m. do you know how your screen is?
> ...are you or are you not using some sort of screen protector?
Nope.
> ...have any damage...
Nope.
> ...what stylus...
The one which came with the device.
> ...use a recognizing software?
Nope.
--
Bruce Tong
Systems Programmer
Electronic Vision / Fitne
Work:
Phone : (614) 592-2511
Fax : (614) 592-2650
mailto:zztong@evi.ev.net
http://www.fitne.ev.net/
Play:
mailto:zztong@eurekanet.com
mailto:zztong@aol.com
http://www.eurekanet.com/~zztong
From: Bruce Tong <zztong@MAIL.EV.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:54:03 -0500
Subject: Re: CUSTOM STAMPS
> Previously there was some chat & interest about "Custom Stamps".
> Is the interest still alive? Is anyone providing the service?
> Does anyone want custom stamps?
I asked a similar set of questions a while back. I took the handfull
of responses to my boss telling him what it would take to put out a
package with 5 drawers of stamps. I received no conclusive response.
Basically, I found there was some interest as long as the price is
low. Distribution via Outfitter's Direct would reach a decent sized
audience, but the combination of a low list price and that Outfitters
will charge a fee based on the size/download time of the app may mean
a special deal may need to be negotiated. The programmer work is easy
and would take little time. The artwork is the long pole in the
development effort.
--
Bruce Tong
Systems Programmer
Electronic Vision / Fitne
Work:
Phone : (614) 592-2511
Fax : (614) 592-2650
mailto:zztong@evi.ev.net
http://www.fitne.ev.net/
Play:
mailto:zztong@eurekanet.com
mailto:zztong@aol.com
http://www.eurekanet.com/~zztong
From: Michael Roeser <A5513644696@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:12:40 +0000
Subject: Plink shut-down
Dear MagicCappers,
For those of you who don't currently subscribe to Plink, AT&T sent
e-mail this morning to subscribers announcing the closing of Plink
(including Wireless Plink) August 31st.
I've got Presto!Mail now running, in anticipation of what I think we
all knew was coming, but I'll miss Plink -- esp the 1-800 number and
the hopeful promise of some cool Plink services (which of course never
came to fruition, but it was still nice to consider the possibilities).
And of course, the cool A-number we all came to love...
Here's hoping that Presto! products and the new Tabriz Telescript tools
keep things rolling...
Mike
Michael_Roeser@attpls.net
mhroeser@ix.netcom.com (Presto!Mail)
From: Bruce Tong <zztong@MAIL.EV.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:26:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Phone Number
> I've got several phone locations setup for my dialer. The ML
> always askes me to confirm the dialing location when I plug in
> the phone line. Is this what you're talking about?
Nope. After that point. Here's the step by step...
1. Connect phone line.
2. Change locality (or create locality if needed)
3. Select Credit Card billing
4. Select "Dial Access code"
5. Ask Presto!Links to dial.
6. Presto!Links says "Dialing Eurekanet" (in my case)
7. The phone dials... lots of beeps... I hear a recording "Your call
cannot be completed as dialed"...
Ok, no biggie, I've got one of the options set wrong. But which one?
If during step 6 Presto!Links would have displayed the number it was
dialing, I would have something to go on. In my case, I forgot to tell
my new locality the prefix it was dialing was a local toll call, so it
didn't dial the area code. But, it took 5 minutes of fiddling to find
it. If I'd have seen the number, I would have known the problem.
--
Bruce Tong
Systems Programmer
Electronic Vision / Fitne
Work:
Phone : (614) 592-2511
Fax : (614) 592-2650
mailto:zztong@evi.ev.net
http://www.fitne.ev.net/
Play:
mailto:zztong@eurekanet.com
mailto:zztong@aol.com
http://www.eurekanet.com/~zztong
From: Bill Berthoud <billb@MV.MV.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:46:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Magic Xchange Timer
> In settings (communication) the maximum time is 60 minutes before
> "disconnect inactive communicator".I need to write a memo to this list
> every 65 minutes!!!!!!!! Doesn't this annoy anyone else? I have mine
> attached to my work pc 14 hours a day and I don't like having to run to
> the storeroom to tap pc icon every time I need to make a note or send a
> memo. Kind of un productive.
Hi Keith -
Sorry to hear that this is getting in the way of your use of Magic Cap. I
understand your situation, and wish that there was a way to remedy it.
The timeout feature was built into Magic Xchange per General Magic's
request that we defend against the user inadvertantly leaving MX connected
to their device for an extended period of time and draining the batteries.
In hindsight, it seems clear to me that most users using MX will also be
running off an AC adapter, so the original intent is somewhat moot.
Unfortunately, the current version does clip the INI value to be in range
5..60 (overzealousness on my part), so there is no way to "cheat" through
the INI file.
> I hope that the next version will have a
> larger clock. Don't you? Someone told me that I shouldn't expect to run
> my business with this pic. But with the discussion out pour from this
> list, I believe it to be possible if the right folks are tuned in.
The "never" option that the Mac version has is a good idea, and will be
added in the next rev. of the PC version.
One suggestion that might alleviate some overhead of reconnecting is to
specify a different backup directory on the PC, with nothing in it. This
way, you don't have the handshaking overhead of the PC telling Magic Cap
what packages to display on the CL shelf, and you don't use up transient
memory with the CL shelf contents. Should you wish to access your "real"
backup directory, just changing it on the PC will refresh without needing
to disconnect and reconnect.
Also, Greg's suggestion to copy the Storeroom PC to the desktop is
handy. I have my device set up this way, and it's a lot faster to not
have to go into the storeroom to connect.
Bill Berthoud billb@mv.mv.com (PLS: bill_berthoud@attpls.net)
IntelliLink Corporation http://www.ilink-corp.com/
From: Richard Brown <A5403644662@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:46:08 +0000
Subject: What to do ? Mail
Closing Personal link.
1- What is Quicklink ?
2- Does this mean that there will be no 1-800 # when traveling ? , or
does another service offer this ?
Hate to see Personalink go
.
3- I have a 1000 and concerned that I wont be able to handle Presto
Mail and Link
4- I will still need a dial up account ?
5- What are my choices besides America Online ?
Lost in space
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From: Wayne Sanderson <A5023644635@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:29:26 +0000
Subject: What to do ? Mail
Your choices are
1.) Presto!Mail 1.0 and/or 1.5
2.) Compuserve Companion(available on CServe)
3.) Quick Link, Mail on the Run!, and other packages that allow a
connection to specific office mail systems.
4.) The terminal emulator packages available and in development, which
you could use to telnet and to access mail systems like Pine, used by
several ISPs(but which would not allow rich-text and packages to be
sent/received.
From: John Mignault <mignault@NYTIMES.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:29:27 -0400
Subject: Re: 1.0f update ?
>Dear MagicCap,
>Would some very kind soul with Presto!Mail send me the 1.0f Sony PIC-1000
>Magic Cap update ? Assuming no laws are being broken, of course.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Andy Belk
>
>Anyd@FrogAndRosbif.org
Now that I think of it, once PLink goes down, where are we going to get MC
updates and the like? Will these now be available on the web? Hmmmmm....
John
-----------------------------
John Mignault
Graphics Systems Programmer
The New York Times
229 W. 43rd St, 7th floor
NY, NY 10036
mignault@nytimes.com
-----------------------------
From: MCW Online <mcwonline@genmagic.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:00:52 -0700
Subject: GM To offer Internet Access to Plink Subscribers.
General Magic Internet Access Software To Be Offered To AT&T PersonaLink
Subscribers
PR Newswire (PR)
07/11/96
Applications Allow Users to Reach Internet E-Mail, World Wide Web
SUNNYVALE, Calif., July 11 /PRNewswire/ -- General Magic today
announced that AT&T will offer General Magic's new Presto!Mail Internet
multimedia e-mail application to subscribers of AT&T PersonaLink(SM)
Services. In addition, subscribers who receive Presto!Mail through
AT&T's offer will also get General Magic's Presto!Links Web browser
application. Together, Presto!Mail and Presto!Links provide Internet
e-mail and the first Web access for handheld communicators incorporating
text, graphics, and forms support over existing Internet service
providers. These applications will give PersonaLink subscribers Internet
and Web access following AT&T's recent decision to discontinue operation
of AT&T PersonaLink Services on August 30, 1996.
"General Magic recognizes that users seek a broad range of
communications options, focused on open systems such as the Internet,"
said Steve Schramm, Vice President of General Magic's Communications
Products Division. "Our work on the Magic Cap platform -- both the
Presto!Mail and Presto!Links applications, as well as Magic Cap for
Windows -- reflects our ongoing efforts to pursue the market for
electronic communications by providing powerful, engaging products based
on open standards.
About General Magic's Products
General Magic's Presto!Links 1.0 and Presto!Mail 1.5 applications
allow users of Magic Cap-based communicators such as the Sony Magic
Link PIC 2000 or Envoy 150 Wireless Communicator from Motorola to browse
the Web, send and retrieve multimedia e-mail via Internet accounts, and
access corporate information using Internet standard protocols including
TCP/IP with dial up PPP, POP, and SMTP.
The Magic Cap platform from General Magic connects busy professionals
to the information and services of the Internet, in an engaging way. It
integrates today's popular modes of communication including fax, public
e-mail services, paging, and telephones. Magic Cap-based communicators
include the Sony Magic Link PIC 2000 and the Envoy 150 Wireless
Communicator from Motorola. Software solutions available for Magic Cap
communicators now include direct corporate and Internet e-mail
connectivity, data collection and database access, and spreadsheet and
personal finance applications.
Magic Cap for Windows is an integrated e-mail, fax and personal
organizer that is designed to enhance communications for small
office/home office users. The product includes functionality found in
the Magic Cap platform for personal communicators, with added features
that make it an integrated communication center for Windows users.
General Magic expects to ship the first commercial release of Magic Cap
for Windows in the second half of 1996. In the commercial release of
Magic Cap for Windows, the company intends to incorporate direct support
for popular online services, including America Online, and Internet
service providers.
In accordance with U.S. securities law, General Magic notes that this
press release contains forward-looking statements. There are risks that
may cause actual results to vary materially. These risks include, but
are not limited to, reliance on key technical and management personnel,
potential schedule changes, competitive pressures and emerging Internet
standards. Additional risk factors are detailed in General Magic's 1995
10-K and its first quarter 1996 10-Q filed with the Securities and
Exchange Commission.
General Magic, Inc. (Nasdaq: GMGC) was founded in 1990 and provides
engaging, active Internet software for business professionals,
developers, device manufacturers, service providers and enterprises.
General Magic is headquartered in Sunnyvale, California, with offices in
Paris and Tokyo. For more information on General Magic and its products,
visit General Magic's web site at http://www.genmagic.com/.
NOTE: Magic Cap is a registered trademark of General Magic, Inc.
Presto!Links and Presto!Mail are trademarks of General Magic. General
Magic acknowledges the rights of the trademark owners for all trademarks
referred to herein.
/CONTACT: Tom Hershenson, 408-774-4343, or tomh@genmagic.com, or
Susan Nicolls, 408-774-6901, or susann@genmagic.com, or
http://www.genmagic.com/About/press.html, both of General Magic/
08:33 EDT
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Joel Connors / Magic Cap For Windows Support
Email at: mcwonline@genmagic.com
Phone at: (408) 774-4041
Fax at: 800-774-3311
Support hours are 9am to 5pm (PST) Monday through Friday, excluding holidays
From: MCW Online <mcwonline@genmagic.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:00:48 -0700
Subject: AT&T To discontinue PLink Service
AT&T Announces Discontinuation Of AT&T Personalink Services
Business Wire (BWR)
07/11/96
PARSIPPANY, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 11, 1996--AT&T today informed
AT&T PersonaLink(SM) Services customers that the service will be
discontinued on August 30, 1996. This action is a continuation of
AT&T's strategy to shift from proprietary network-based services to the
Internet.
Introduced in September of 1994, AT&T PersonaLink Services used
Telescript(TM) agent technology to enable Sony Magic Link(TM) and
Motorola Envoy(TM) personal communicators to perform customized
messaging tasks.
Customers of Sony Magic Link and Motorola Envoy will still be able to
use the devices for mobile messaging through services currently bundled
in each device, such as America Online and/or RadioMail(R), or through
the use of third-party software. In addition, they will for the first
time be able to use these personal communicators to connect to Internet
electronic mailboxes and browse the World Wide Web using software from
Active Paper, Inc., which was recently acquired by General Magic.
AT&T said all the unit's employees will be reassigned to other parts
of the company.
Telescript software was developed by General Magic, Inc, founded in
May 1990 and headquartered in Sunnyvale, Calif. AT&T continues to be a
member of the General Magic Founding Partners Council, which also
includes Cable & Wireless, France Telecom, Fujitsu, Matsushita,
Mitsubishi Corp, Mitsubishi Electric, Motorola, Nortel, NTT, Oki, Royal
Dutch PTT, Philips, Sanyo, Sony and Toshiba.
AT&T PersonaLink is a service mark of AT&T.
Magic Link is a trademark of Sony Electronics Inc.
Telescript is a trademark of General Magic.
Envoy is a trademark of Motorola.
RadioMail is a registered trademark of RadioMail Corp.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Joel Connors / Magic Cap For Windows Support
Email at: mcwonline@genmagic.com
Phone at: (408) 774-4041
Fax at: 800-774-3311
Support hours are 9am to 5pm (PST) Monday through Friday, excluding holidays
From: MCW Online <mcwonline@genmagic.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:52:08 -0700
Subject: Re: large text messages under presto!mail 1.5
Greg Thanks for the info. I will have our testing folks look into this issue
on the 1000 device and get back to you.
Best
Joel Connors
MC Support
At 05:32 PM 7/10/96 -0700, Greg Satz wrote:
>Poster: MCW Online
>> At this time we have tested up to 64K message testing with 100% reliabilty.
>> We are aware that messages over 100K will most likely not go through.
>
>I received a note from someone who tried on a pic-1000 and said they
>couldn't get a 64k message through.
>
>Greg Satz
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Joel Connors / Magic Cap For Windows Support
Email at: mcwonline@genmagic.com
Phone at: (408) 774-4041
Fax at: 800-774-3311
Support hours are 9am to 5pm (PST) Monday through Friday, excluding holidays
From: Jas <jas@alumni.cse.ucsc.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:12:41 -0700
Subject: Re: AT&T PersonalLink Dies 8/30/96
Fenris wrote:
>
> PARSIPPANY, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 11, 1996--AT&T today
> informed AT&T PersonaLink(SM) Services customers that the service
> will be discontinued on August 30, 1996. This action is a
> continuation of AT&T's strategy to shift from proprietary
> network-based services to the Internet.
> Introduced in September of 1994, AT&T PersonaLink Services used
> Telescript(TM) agent technology to enable Sony Magic Link(TM) and
> Motorola Envoy(TM) personal communicators to perform customized
> messaging tasks.
> Customers of Sony Magic Link and Motorola Envoy will still be
> able to use the devices for mobile messaging through services
> currently bundled in each device, such as America Online and/or
> RadioMail(R), or through the use of third-party software. In
> addition, they will for the first time be able to use these personal
> communicators to connect to Internet electronic mailboxes and browse
> the World Wide Web using software from Active Paper, Inc., which was
> recently acquired by General Magic.
> AT&T said all the unit's employees will be reassigned to other
> parts of the company.
> Telescript software was developed by General Magic, Inc, founded
>
> in May 1990 and headquartered in Sunnyvale, Calif. AT&T continues to
> be a member of the General Magic Founding Partners Council, which
> also includes Cable & Wireless, France Telecom, Fujitsu, Matsushita,
> Mitsubishi Corp, Mitsubishi Electric, Motorola, Nortel, NTT, Oki,
> Royal Dutch PTT, Philips, Sanyo, Sony and Toshiba.
> -0-
> AT&T PersonaLink is a service mark of AT&T.
> Magic Link is a trademark of Sony Electronics Inc.
> Telescript is a trademark of General Magic.
> Envoy is a trademark of Motorola.
> RadioMail is a registered trademark of RadioMail Corp.
> CONTACT:
> Kevin Compton
> 408-452-3966 (work)
> 408-353-3883 (home)
> kcompton@attmail.com (email)
Anyone know what all this is about????
jas
From: Richard Brown <A5403644662@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:28:09 +0000
Subject: What to do ? Mail
Richard_Brown@attpls.net
Richard Brown Photography
725 NW Flanders #204
Portland, Oregon. 97209
(503)-226-7033
Thanks Wayne,
I don't have an office mail system and travel most of the time , What
is the CompuServe
companion like , what does it cost and how do I get it ?
Thanks
Richard
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From: Andy Belk <Andy_Belk@NEXT.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:38:37 -0700
Subject: 1.0f patch for Presto!Mail users
Thanks to the wonders of AltaVista I found the patch lying on Sony's web site:
http://cons3.sel.sony.com/SEL/Magic/test.html
There are instructions on what to do with it on:
http://cons3.sel.sony.com/SEL/Magic/fax300.htm
You still need Magic Exchange to load it into your link.
Thanks to anyone who might have e-mailed it to me in the meantime (I can't
check my magic mail at work as we have digital phones ... oh for Ricochet
...).
Andy Belk
Anyd@FrogAndRosbif.org
From: Steve Wolfson <wolfson@UCS.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:40:24 -0700
Subject: Pocket Quicken or Similar for the 2000?
Any money mgt. software available either free or for sale? Intuit won't
sell the pocket quicken directly. I could do some stuff in Pen Cell
but not all I want.
From: John Mignault <mignault@NYTIMES.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:50:40 -0400
Subject: Re: AT&T PersonalLink Dies 8/30/96
>
>Anyone know what all this is about????
>
> jas
Hmmmmm. How to explain.
Well, roughly, PLink is going out of business, a wictim of de internet.
They sent mail to the subscribers this AM detailing the "transition."
Incidentally, with this "coupon for software" business (read the mail -
Plink will be offering vouchers for a email access package), what happens
if one already has Presto!Mail and no need for the other offered packages?
Can we get a free PIC-2000? :)
John
-----------------------------
John Mignault
Graphics Systems Programmer
The New York Times
229 W. 43rd St, 7th floor
NY, NY 10036
mignault@nytimes.com
-----------------------------
From: Paul Linhardt <plin@SONYSOFT.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:06:06 -0700
Subject: Re: it's 3 a.m. do you know how your screen is?
Karen_h@attpls.net writes:
>I started out without protection, but soon had large scratches caused
>by a rough spot on the stylus itself. Sony replaced the screen under
>warranty and since then, I have used the WriteRight protectors from the
>Concept Kitchen. I have only used two in the last year, but probably
>should change them a little more often. Lately when I hand my Link to
>someone, I have to explain to them that the screen is not supposed to
>look that bad. (I have a cool pattern where the Scramble board is).
>
Again scratching occurs when particles of dust are dragged across the
screen. If you keep your screen clean it is much less likely to occur.
Applications that require a lot of dragging such as the freeware
application Scramble, SNTI's game Gammon and character recognizers such as
Grafetti and Scribe are the most likely to cause scratches. If you play
Scramble by tapping on letters rather than dragging your stylus over
letters, it will reduce the scratching.
-Paul
---------------------
Sony New Technologies
http://www.sonysoft.com
1-800-739-7337
Attention! New e-mail address: plin@sonysoft.com
From: Greg Satz <satz@CISCO.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 11:56:38 -0700
Subject: Greg Satz: Fwd: Close PersonaLink
Here is the message AT&T sent out this morning.
Greg
PersonaLink Services
July 11, 1996
Dear AT&T PersonaLink Customer:
We're grateful you chose PersoanLink Services, and hope you have enjoyed
using it. We're proud of it's innovative features and the quality of the
service. Unfortunately, it has become clear that, in the future, a
proprietary messaging service like PersonaLink will have difficulty
competing with new Internet technologies. Therefore, we have made the
difficult decision to discontinue the service as of August 30, 1996.
Of course, you will still be able to use your Magic Cap personal
communicator for messaging with the other services offered that are already
bundled in your communicator. Depending on your device, you may have
America Online and/or RadioMail. In addition, for the first time you'll be
able to use your personal communicator for mobile Internet connections
using software that will be made available to you.
To make the transition smooth and trouble-free for you, we are offering the
following package:
Software
To enable you to use an alternative messaging service, AT&T is mailing you
a coupon valued up to $150 which you can apply toward the purchase of one
of the following:
- QuickLink (for connection to QuickMail e-mail
service)
- Mail on the Run! (provides connectivity to cc:Mail
or Microsoft Mail)
- Presto!Mail 1.5 (for access to any Internet Service Provider
e-mail account)
We'll send you detailed product information for each of these software
packages via PersonaLink, so please check your mailbox for information.
Sony will ship the software, so please mail your coupon to them at:
Sony Fulfillment Center
8500 Leesburg Pike Suite 501
Vienna, VA 22182
Waiver of PersonaLink Service Subscription and Wireless Activation Fee
You will not be charged the AT&T PersonaLink Services monthly
subscriber fee of $9.95 retroactively from May 1 until August 30,
1996. (You will continue to be charged for faxing.)
For Motorola Envoy customers, we'll issue you a $99.00 credit for
the AT&T Wireless PersonaLink Services activation fee. (We'll continue to
charge you for usage.)
Internet Access
As a convenience to you, we're sending you free start-up software for AT&T
WorldNet Service* (a Macintosh version will be available later this year).
Please note that this software will not work with your Magic Cap-based
communicator. AT&T WorldNet Service has minimum requirements of an
IBM-compatible PC, 386 or better processor, Windows 3.1 or Windows 95, 8MB
RAM, and 11MB free hard disk space.
- if you are an AT&T long-distance customer, you'll
receive: five free hours of monthly use for a year, if you register on or
before December 31, 1996 ($2.50 per hour after five hours) or $19.95
monthly unlimited access
- if you aren't an AT&T long distance customer, you'll
receive: three hours per month at $4.95 ($2.50 per hour after three hours)
or $24.95 monthly unlimited access. To become an AT&T long-distance
customer, please call 1-800-288-0101.
* Local, long distance or 800 facility access charges to reach AT&T
WorldNet Service, and additional access charges or taxes that may be
imposed on subscribers or on AT&T WorldNet Service, may apply to all usage.
Five-hour offer limited to one AT&T WorldNet account per billed telephone
number presubscribed to AT&T for residential customers. Unlimited usage
offers limited to one log-on per account at any time. Other terms and
conditions apply.
Reminders
We urge you to inform your correspondents of the new e-mail address that
you will be using after August 30, 1996.
Please continue to check your PersonaLink mailbox for further information
designed to assist you during this transition.
As a loyal AT&T PersonaLink subscriber, you are among our most valued
customers, and we have worked to make this transition an easy one for you.
Please let us know if you have any questions or need assistance by calling
1-800-400-LINK. Thank you for your support.
Sincerely,
Raymond Tringali
Vice-President & Genera
l Manager
AT&T Personal Online Se
rvices
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From: "David Devaney, Jr." <daviddjr@shadow.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 05:55:36 EDT
Subject: Re: AT&T To discontinue PLink Service
On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:00:48 -0700 you wrote:
____snip
>Active Paper, Inc., which was recently acquired by General Magic.
____snip
Someone made a mistake here!!!!!!!
David Devaney, Jr.
daviddjr@shadow.net
From: Dave Katoh <Dave5092@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:10:51 -0400
Subject: Re: AT&T To discontinue PLink Service
>____snip
>>Active Paper, Inc., which was recently acquired by General Magic.
>____snip
>Someone made a mistake here!!!!!!!
----------------
Presto!Mail and Presto!Links were actually acquired by General Magic.
-----------------
In addition, they will for the first time be able to use these personal
communicators to connect to Internet
electronic mailboxes and browse the World Wide Web using software from Active
Paper, Inc., which was recently acquired by General Magic.
From: Jonas MIllan <whale@kitkat.T-Net.net.ve>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:00:15 +0000
Subject: SKYTEL CARD
hello all,
I just bought myself the skytel pager card, and I got the wonderful
surprise that it does not work with the PIC 2000!!! it needs a small
software patch but they need the card or I should just get the update,
if this is not illegal, can anyone please send me the patch to my att
personalink account, or thru the this internet adress, for me is the
same.
thanx
Jonas Millan
whale@telcel.net.ve
Jonas_Millan@attpls.net
From: Kevin Fries <A5783644665@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:58:20 +0000
Subject:
Hi Greg,,
>Poster: "Kenny S. Irick"
>> After I purchased Presto!Mail and was shopping aroung
>> for an ISP, I gave AT&T a call. They told me that their
>> service could be accessed ONLY with their sotware.
> This is pretty remarkable if true. In this day of standards it
> seems like a huge step backwards. I can understand from a
> customer service point of view why they would wish they
> could do this.
You guys missed the true hypocrisy of it all. They are dropping
PersonLink because it is too proprietary. However, PC systems that
need software specifically configured by AT&T is not too proprietary.
HUH? I would not even think about trusting AT&T again until they learn
to tell the truth. Guess its my turn to be OTR.
Kevin Fries
Looking for mail provider
From: Keith Felkins <A5393644684@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:12:24 +0000
Subject: PIC 1000 FOR SALE
Dear Magic,
PIC 1000, AC CORD, CARD, PHONE SET, PHONE CORD, PC CORD AND BEST
BATTERY. BEST OFFER OVER $375.00. WILL SHIP AT MY EXPENSE.
LEMON HEAD
From: Jonas MIllan <whale@kitkat.T-Net.net.ve>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:48:58 +0000
Subject: test, dont mind it!
test
From: "Rishi R. Oswal" <Yipadedoda@AOL.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:12:28 -0400
Subject: HELP!
[This message may have contained graphics created by a Magic Cap device on
America Online.]
HOLY SMOKES!!
I lost my TINKER TOOL. Can someone PLEASE send it to me. I can't live without
it!
HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
Rishi Oswal
Yipadedoda@aol.com
From: "J. Eric Townsend" <jet@ABULAFIA.genmagic.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:10:52 -0700
Subject: Archives of the list (was Re: 28.8 card modems
"satz" == Greg Satz writes:
satz> mailing list where it has been explained a few times. [An aside,
satz> has anyone set up a WAIS search on the MagicCap mailing list
satz> archives?]
Josh Carter (in our Developer Technical Services group) has done this
for our developer resources web pages:
http://www.genmagic.com/Develop/Lists/index.html
The list archives cover the most recent couple weeks of discussion.
There have been well over 5000 messages posted to the magiccap list
since it was started.
(FWIW, I recently took over webmaster duties for General Magic. On my
todo-list is setting up a public archive of comp.os.magic-cap and
distilling much of the list content into a more usable public archive.
If anyone has opinions/requests in how this is set up, please send
*ME* email (not the entire magiccap discussion list).)
--
J. Eric Townsend vox #: USA 408.774.4252 (fax: USA 408.774.4020)
work: jet@genmagic.com
play: jet@well.com, http://www.spies.com/jet
** wanted: Art of Noise - "Into Battle", original, in good condition
From: Scott Doniger <A5603644614@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:35:39 +0000
Subject: Re: What to do ? Mail
Dear Magic,
Magic Cap Discussion List writes:
> don't have an office mail system and travel most
> of the time , What is the CompuServe
> companion like , what does it cost and how do I
> get it ?
Dont bother.. It takes 600k, wont work with a 2000 and has so many
bugs, cserve gave up on it
scott
--------------------------
From the desk of Scott Doniger...
From: Wayne Sanderson <A5023644635@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:49:07 +0000
Subject: What to do ? Mail
>Thanks Wayne,
>I don't have an office mail >system and travel most of the >time ,
What is the CompuServe
>companion like , what does it >cost and how do I get it ?
>Thanks
>Richard
Compuserve Companion is available on the Compuserve PDA forum in the
MagicCap section. I have not tried it, so I have no opinion to share
other than it has garnered mixed reviews on this list. It is a free
download if you are a Compuserve subscriber; If you are not, you will
either have to subscribe conventionally using a PC or Mac and download
it yourself, which would conveniently establish an account for you to
access when you do load the package, or you could get someone else who
already has an account to download it onto a floppy for you and install
it using Magic XChange and hope you can sign up for an account using
that package. Try calling Compuserve and run it by them- maybe they
will send it to you on disk. That would be a smart marketing move on
their part; Then again I have not seen a great deal of savvy marketing
by any of the entities involved with MagicCap other than General Magic
and Active Paper. And after all that you may find that it is a lame-o
access package that does nothing well (like another online service
package for communicators that I could mention) and figure out for your
self that Presto!Mail was the way to go all along. Give it a shot
anyway- results may vary. As for myself, I will await the delivery of
my copies of Presto!Mail and !Links as well as the WorldNet startup kit
which AT&T promises to send gratis, and go from there. Other posters to
the list have written that after you sign up with the proprietary
software, P!Mail and !Links can access the account, as can any PPP
capable software. We'll see.........
From: Scott Doniger <A5603644614@ATTPLS.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:37:10 +0000
Subject: Re: 1.0f patch for Presto!Mail users
Dear Magic,
Magic Cap Discussion List writes:
> (I can't check my magic mail at work as we have
> digital phones ... oh for Ricochet
> ...).
> Andy Belk
> Anyd@FrogAndRosbif.org
They do make converters for digitial phones to use things like ml's
with. I use one on our Merlin System.... About $90.00 bucks...
Scott
--------------------------
From the desk of Scott Doniger...
From: "David Devaney, Jr." <daviddjr@SHADOW.NET>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:02:22 -0400
Subject: Posting from my communicator
Hi Magicappers,
This is a reply to my own message to test replying to a message from the list.
As I stated before I changed the name of the list's email address from
Internet to Magic Cap to see what the address stamp on the envelope says. I
think it should say Magic Cap via 'my ISP' like with certain individuals who
have two email addresses on my unit. It DOESN'T say that it still says
Internet via 'my ISP'. We'll see what happens.
Well it didn't work. It didn't even get out of my Out Box. I got a RCPT
error and was told to verify the address. So I moved it to the In Box and
invoked the "Collect Names" program. The name card I got had just My name as
the email address, since I was replying to a message I sent. As i asked
before has anyone noticed a problem replying to a list message? One where it
doesn't really get to the list.
Could this have something to do with the Reply Return program?
Thanks for putting up with me.
David Devaney, Jr.
daviddjr@shadow.net
From: Richard Brodsky <rbro@WCO.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:56:05 -0700
Subject: Onno's Tools
Dear Magic,
Can someone who has Presto Mail please send me a copy of Onno's tools?
Thanks in advance.
From: Ray Rischpater <Ray_Rischpater@ALLPEN.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:13:47 -0800
Subject: Re: AT&T WorldNet being "proprietary" (was Re: <No subject give
Kevin Fries wrote:
>You guys missed the true hypocrisy of it all. They are dropping
>PersonLink because it is too proprietary. However, PC systems that
>need software specifically configured by AT&T is not too proprietary.
>HUH? I would not even think about trusting AT&T again until they learn
>to tell the truth. Guess its my turn to be OTR.
Actually, AT&T WorldNet is using open, well-documented protocols.
Their service offers standard PPP, authenticated using CHAP, an
approved PPP protocol for verification of your identity and right
to use the service.
Currently, CHAP is not supported on all platforms (It's supported for
drivers with WinSock, Linux, most UNIX variants, &c, &c - it's not
some Redmond, Washington thorn in our side...) Notably, the Mac's
existing PPP drivers have not adopted CHAP, which is why Macintosh
access is lagging Windows.
This isn't a case being proprietary, but a case of an ISP being ahead of
the technology curve; ironically now it's the communications client's
turns to catch up.
It's admittedly annoying from the Mac side, but I firmly believe that
AT&T's choice of CHAP for authentication was the right one, and one I
would have made if I were launching a nationwide ISP service in my
free time...
Cheers,
Ray RIschpater
From: Lee Butler <leebu@IX.NETCOM.COM>
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 22:44:33 -0700
Subject: Re: 28.8 card modems
Jon Whitney writes:
> Maybe if a company were to introduce a 28.8 pcmcia modem
> with a MC driver they would sell a few. Wouldn't
> PrestoLinks/PrestoMail be cool if it ran at socially acceptable
> speeds?
Already done... I'm crusin' the net with an Apex mobileplus 28.8 and Sony's
wireless links software. Works with my cellphone and land lines! It's wicked
cool.
Thanks,
Lee Butler
Consultant
leebu@ix.netcom.com
Phone:303.843.1738 Pager:800.480.9079
From: "David Devaney, Jr." <daviddjr@shadow.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 01:25:00 EDT
Subject: Re: AT&T To discontinue PLink Service
On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:10:51 -0400 you wrote:
>>____snip
>>>Active Paper, Inc., which was recently acquired by General Magic.
>>____snip
>
>>Someone made a mistake here!!!!!!!
>
>----------------
>Presto!Mail and Presto!Links were actually acquired by General Magic.
>-----------------
>In addition, they will for the first time be able to use these personal
>communicators to connect to Internet electronic mailboxes and browse the >World Wide Web using software from Active Paper, Inc., which was recently >acquired by General Magic.
Sorry!! I misread it. It's that grammar thing:
"browse the World Wide Web using software from
Active Paper, Inc., which was recently acquired by
General Magic."
VS.
"browse the World Wide Web using software, from
Active Paper, Inc., which was recently acquired by
General Magic."
The comma in the first technically says it the way
I read it while the second is how it should have
been grammatically.
OK Class. The lesson is over.
Sorry for the Grammar lesson. I am very picky. I
guess I would have let it slip if it wasn't an
official Press Release.
David Devaney, Jr.
daviddjr@shadow.net
From: "David Devaney, Jr." <daviddjr@shadow.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 02:26:03 EDT
Subject: PersonaLink Press Release
I wouldn't panic yet.
I called AT&T right after seeing the post about
the discontinuance of service to see if I could
acquire the Telescript stuff to put on the ISP I
am planning on starting. I don't know if he
really understood me but he said that they were
planning on using the stuff so I wasn't available.
I don't know if he just meant the hardware or
what.
If anyone wants to help I am interested in
acquiring this technology. I had asked GM a while
back what I would need to essentially start my own
Telescript Server but they never got back with me.
I am still interested in adding this onto the ISP
I am planning. Yes I know about Tabriz but I
assume it is the same as with Active Web Tools
where there is something else I need to do what I
want. I don't just want the Web stuff I want what
every Magic Cap adopter has been looking for since
the beginning: Ordering theater tickets, making
dinner reservations, and sending flowers just by
tapping a few buttons and sending an agent to do
all the work. This is why I got a Magic Link and
started using Magic Cap. I actually got one when
they were $599 at Office Depot then returned it
because Market Square wasn't available. I then
bought one for $399 a few months later, after
Market Square was supposed to have been released.
I kept it and was very pleased when Presto!Mail
came out.
Sorry to be so babble on about nothing.
"Yes, David's Magic Link, This Is Your Life!"
David Devaney, Jr.
daviddjr@shadow.net
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